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I don’t think it benefits anybody two have two mixed messages coming from two different FB leaders right now, and if only one of them is going to speak up it mi
by dbt00 9y ago
I don’t think it benefits anybody two have two mixed messages coming from two different FB leaders right now, and if only one of them is going to speak up it might as well be Mark.
Her saying “ditto” a lot is not going to help. Her job right now should be inward focused while Mark takes the heat. If his messaging doesn’t work, she’s plan B when they need to pivot.
(Disclaimer: I’ve never worked at FB and I hope it goes away in its current form.)
- tarboreus 9y agoMaybe it's just me, but did social norms around first names change? I wouldn't call Steven Spielberg "Steven." I'd say "Steven Spielberg" or "Spielberg." But this is HN and it's entirely possible you've worked with Mark Zuckerberg.
- seatotree 9y agoIt is just you.
- ben_jones 9y agoI really don't like how people on HN and otherwise have taken to calling Mark Zuckerberg "Zuck". At this point I feel like its some kind of playground insult people are using because it rhyme's with the word "fuck". Am I misinterpreting it?
- brandnewlow 9y agoI don't think its meant as an insult. I think people use it because it implies familiarity, is fun to read/say, and AFAIK is Zuckerberg's old IM/IRC handle which makes it a way to reference his past as an actual coder/hacker. I see it more as a sign of respect when used on HN.
- jonathankoren 9y agoYou’re misinterpetting it. He’s been known as Zuck since Facebook started. It’s even his email and login.
- MrL567 9y agoThe playground insult version of Zuck is Zucc for reference. Also has become the term for when a Facebook page gets shut down, they get "zucced".
- abritinthebay 9y agoOut of context yes, you’d be making a reasonable point, but we have context for the names. It’s informal yes, but this isn’t a place for formal writing. So it’s mostly just you.
- slantyyz 9y ago>> It’s informal yes, but this isn’t a place for formal writing. >> So it’s mostly just you. It's more likely a generational thing, so not just him/her. It's also less about formal writing than it is with familiarity. My (older) generation typically doesn't refer to someone by their first name only unless we actually know the person.
- whatyoucantsay 9y agoThat is precisely why those who want to place themselves in the in crowd use first names.
- abritinthebay 9y agoPerhaps it once was but it's a really common thing now so it's hardly just for that reason.
- whatyoucantsay 9y agoOr perhaps narcissism and attention-seeking behaviours are "a really common thing now" and, as a consequence, referring to wealthy strangers by first name is also becoming more common.
- abritinthebay 9y agoNo offense, but this comes across very "old man yells at cloud" or "darn kids" and I'm 37.
- slantyyz 9y agoCommon among a particular age group or demographic doesn't necessarily mean it's a universal behavior.
- whatyoucantsay 9y agoIt's not just you. Your point is entirely valid.
- ggg9990 9y agoThe first-name thing and the casual workplace attire and the fun offices in Silicon Valley are all part of a trend to offset accelerating inequality with the illusion of egalitarianism.
- joejerryronnie 9y agoOr maybe it's just more comfortable to wear jeans and you're reading too much into it.
- tarboreus 9y agoWhen Mark Zuckerberg starts wearing swetpants to the office I'll buy this.
- hn_throwaway_99 9y agoAgreed. I find the entire thesis of this article extremely obnoxious, as it basically boils down to "Why isn't she doing more 'stuff'?!". What does the author actually want her to do that would change anything? I feel so much that in the modern world we've substituted face time, even if it's meaningless blather, with actual work. Granted, social networks like Facebook are a big factor in this, so perhaps it's fair after all...