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> Ask HN: Why does P2P encrypted messaging still suck? Because no one wants to pay for it.

• tibbon 9y ago
  Also, no one's asking to have it paid for. I've noticed over the past few years that a lot of things go un-made because there's an assumption that no one will pay for something if it's done really well. The reality is a lot of people will pay for something if it's done really well. I'd easily pay $10/month for Facebook, if Facebook really had some way to shut off 100% of its marketing-based data things that we're all so worried about. Thing is that people became allergic to asking outright for money from consumers a while ago. I used to buy software, and I still will if someone actually makes great software! (I pay for all sorts of services that actually ask; Dropbox, a password manager, Spotify, Netflix, extra space on Gmail, etc. Provide an actually great service, make it a reasonable price and I'll pay!)
  • woolvalley 9y ago
    threema.ch exists if you want a paid encrypted chat client Things that are free get about 10x more adoption than non-free equivalents, and chat clients are software that have network effects.
    • pnutjam 9y ago
      https://spideroak.com/semaphor/ https://spideroak.com/semaphor/ SpiderOak is a good company. I've had a free storage account with them for years. I didn't log in for 3 years and when I logged in my data was still sitting there, safe and sound. Pretty nice for a free tier.