> Reddits success in spite of completely eschewing designers should prove design is over valued. This is not a fair conclusion to draw. All that tells us is th

> Reddits success in spite of completely eschewing designers should prove design is over valued. This is not a fair conclusion to draw. All that tells us is that design isn't the _only_ factor in success. There is nothing to suggest that Reddit would not be more popular were it better designed. I'm not really sure what the cultural roots are, but the fact that visual appeal is valued by consumers makes it important to developers. I would also push back heavily on using Japanese web design as a counterexample. Their popular sites generally share an aesthetic, it's just a little different than what ours have. It's also worth mentioning that western designed sites dominate the Japanese market as well.