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> I regret every bit of it. Why make a statement without even one item of support as to why you regret it? The ASUS board problem sounds inconvenient, to say

> I regret every bit of it. Why make a statement without even one item of support as to why you regret it? The ASUS board problem sounds inconvenient, to say the least, but the way your phrased it implies it doesn't effect you in particular. Comments on a popular online electronics retailer's website seem to be positive for this model.

pdabbadabba 9y ago
I'm pretty sure he regretted it because "[w]e still don't have any motherboards that support it well."
- joenathanone 9y ago
  What does that mean exactly?
nobleach 9y ago
No, I've heard good things about the ASUS. The ASRock (which is what I bought) is absolutely terrible. I regret buying the ASRock because I now have a computer that freezes constantly. It's not related to processor load or heat. It simply just doesn't work well at all. Sometimes an hour, sometimes 5 minutes.... I'm hoping I'm phrasing this well enough.
- swindmill 9y ago
  FWIW I am running a two week old Ryzen 5 2400G and ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Gaming-ITX/ac setup with rock solid stability under Windows 10. I did end up having to run my 3200MHz memory at 2933Mhz to avoid some issues. This is the max memory speed the CPU supports anyways so I don't consider it a large loss. The ASRock published memory QVL agrees with my finding that 3200MHz isn't stable with the specific memory I'm using. See https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Gaming-ITXac/index.asp#MemoryRR https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Gaming-ITXac... What ASRock model are you using? Are you sure the culprit is the CPU or motherboard and not another component?
  - nobleach 9y ago
    I'm running the micro-atx AB350M Pro4 AM4. One can never be TOO sure that it's not something else, but I've run it on one stick of ram, with no other peripherals (removed WiFi PCIe card) and the problem persists. Still, the single stick of ram is the best it's ever run. I'd love to run at 2933, but it "seems" to freeze even more at those speeds. I hate that this is all non-scientific anecdotal evidence. That seems to be right in line with everything else over at the ASRock forums.
    - dragontamer 9y ago
      As an owner of an x360 Raven Ridge Envy, I'm also having similar issues. GPU Drivers on Raven Ridge seem to be borked at the moment. I'm running Win10, default drivers (which seem to be 17.7 GPU drivers). HP Envy x360 laptop CANNOT upgrade to more recent drivers. Have you tried updating to 18.3 or later GPU drivers?? Raven Ridge is allegedly all the same die, so I wouldn't be surprised if the iGPU drivers between both of our systems have a similar issue. But yeah, its looking to me like Raven Ridge (the iGPU parts) still have some warts. The pure CPU Ryzen parts had warts too when they were released, but they were fixed much more quickly.
      - nobleach 9y ago
        I'll give updating the GPU drivers a shot and report back this evening. It's now become my "I'll try anything" setup.
        dragontamer 9y ago
        Yeah, its a shame too. As long as my laptop doesn't crash, its actually kind of awesome. But crashing makes it unable to do any kind of "serious" work. Nothing breaks a workflow like a forced unexpected reboot. This "crashing" issue seems to be isolated to Raven Ridge. I've seen a lot of complaints about it here and there online. There was an obscure crash on Pinnacle Ridge CPUs (1800x, Threadripper, and EPYC) on Linux, but it was allegedly fixed months ago. So based on my experience and research, it seems like Raven Ridge needs to be avoided. Its drivers just aren't good enough for prime time yet. Let me know if you're able to successfully update to something newer.

pdabbadabba 9y ago

I'm pretty sure he regretted it because "[w]e still don't have any motherboards that support it well."

joenathanone 9y ago
What does that mean exactly?

nobleach 9y ago

No, I've heard good things about the ASUS. The ASRock (which is what I bought) is absolutely terrible. I regret buying the ASRock because I now have a computer that freezes constantly. It's not related to processor load or heat. It simply just doesn't work well at all. Sometimes an hour, sometimes 5 minutes.... I'm hoping I'm phrasing this well enough.

swindmill 9y ago
FWIW I am running a two week old Ryzen 5 2400G and ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Gaming-ITX/ac setup with rock solid stability under Windows 10. I did end up having to run my 3200MHz memory at 2933Mhz to avoid some issues. This is the max memory speed the CPU supports anyways so I don't consider it a large loss. The ASRock published memory QVL agrees with my finding that 3200MHz isn't stable with the specific memory I'm using. See https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Gaming-ITXac/index.asp#MemoryRR https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Gaming-ITXac... What ASRock model are you using? Are you sure the culprit is the CPU or motherboard and not another component?
- nobleach 9y ago
  I'm running the micro-atx AB350M Pro4 AM4. One can never be TOO sure that it's not something else, but I've run it on one stick of ram, with no other peripherals (removed WiFi PCIe card) and the problem persists. Still, the single stick of ram is the best it's ever run. I'd love to run at 2933, but it "seems" to freeze even more at those speeds. I hate that this is all non-scientific anecdotal evidence. That seems to be right in line with everything else over at the ASRock forums.
  - dragontamer 9y ago
    As an owner of an x360 Raven Ridge Envy, I'm also having similar issues. GPU Drivers on Raven Ridge seem to be borked at the moment. I'm running Win10, default drivers (which seem to be 17.7 GPU drivers). HP Envy x360 laptop CANNOT upgrade to more recent drivers. Have you tried updating to 18.3 or later GPU drivers?? Raven Ridge is allegedly all the same die, so I wouldn't be surprised if the iGPU drivers between both of our systems have a similar issue. But yeah, its looking to me like Raven Ridge (the iGPU parts) still have some warts. The pure CPU Ryzen parts had warts too when they were released, but they were fixed much more quickly.
    - nobleach 9y ago
      I'll give updating the GPU drivers a shot and report back this evening. It's now become my "I'll try anything" setup.
      - dragontamer 9y ago
        Yeah, its a shame too. As long as my laptop doesn't crash, its actually kind of awesome. But crashing makes it unable to do any kind of "serious" work. Nothing breaks a workflow like a forced unexpected reboot. This "crashing" issue seems to be isolated to Raven Ridge. I've seen a lot of complaints about it here and there online. There was an obscure crash on Pinnacle Ridge CPUs (1800x, Threadripper, and EPYC) on Linux, but it was allegedly fixed months ago. So based on my experience and research, it seems like Raven Ridge needs to be avoided. Its drivers just aren't good enough for prime time yet. Let me know if you're able to successfully update to something newer.