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You seem perturbed. Would you ever consider setting up your own Digg competitor, given Digg is going down?

formerpoweruser 16y ago
I wouldn't say I am perturbed. I would say I am amused by all the "guess-timations" related to digg whenever the subject of "Digg is dead" comes up. I feel that there are very few people outside the digg power-users who understands how systematic the gaming was going on. I am sure people knows that gaming was going, but I don't think a lot of people understands or knows the fine details. Hopefully, by sharing my thought I could influence the widely held idea that "Digg finally screwed up bad this time" to "Digg finally did something right for the first time". Honestly I feel that digg management is incompetent at best. Jay was more interested in selling Digg to the highest bidder as soon as he joined digg and after that didn't work out too well, he was more interested on generating revenue (nothing wrong with that) at the expense of taking care of the site and the community. To answer your question. No I don't think I would do something like Digg. Digg in its current form, and even when it started, is a glorified RSS feed; which doesn't even reflect the choice of the hive-mind or your interest. The real meat is in the community (just look at reddit). If you get the software right, the user will take you from there. Besides who else wants another source of distraction to get news?
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points 16y ago
Surely the whole idea is flawed. It's as useful as internet polls are. Once any site like digg/reddit/etc gets big enough to be worth gaming, it will be gamed.
- adrianwaj 16y ago
  Yes, and welcome to planet Earth. HN is moderated manually and automatically. Paypal is ruthlessly policed. Both have resulting unpleasant stories. Security is vigilance and striking a balance between many things. On HN, what interests me are Top Comments, how about you?
  - points 16y ago
    Even top comments are often just appealing to lowest common denominator, current fashion, etc Democracy, and 1 vote per person is just a flawed system. Thankfully there is a fair bit of dictatorship on HN which keeps things fairly sane.
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    - yoasif_ 16y ago
      >Democracy, and 1 vote per person is just a flawed system. Thankfully there is a fair bit of dictatorship on HN which keeps things fairly sane. I agree, and this is where reddit, for instance fails. Once quippd gains a userbase that is interested in trolling and posting bad comments, we plan to implement a slashdot style moderation system (still the best moderation system out there, imo).
yoasif_ 16y ago
I actually have. We announced the site here http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1454934 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1454934 as well. The novel idea of quippd is to allow users to add/correct links/headlines/content in an effort to cut down the gaming -- no story is just about a single provider of content (optimally). Check out our coverage of the burning of qur'ans story for instance -- many articles being referenced, not a single source. http://quippd.com/show/2994/reply/4389/Florida_Church_plans_Quran-burning_event http://quippd.com/show/2994/reply/4389/Florida_Church_plans_...

I wouldn't say I am perturbed. I would say I am amused by all the "guess-timations" related to digg whenever the subject of "Digg is dead" comes up. I feel that there are very few people outside the digg power-users who understands how systematic the gaming was going on. I am sure people knows that gaming was going, but I don't think a lot of people understands or knows the fine details. Hopefully, by sharing my thought I could influence the widely held idea that "Digg finally screwed up bad this time" to "Digg finally did something right for the first time". Honestly I feel that digg management is incompetent at best. Jay was more interested in selling Digg to the highest bidder as soon as he joined digg and after that didn't work out too well, he was more interested on generating revenue (nothing wrong with that) at the expense of taking care of the site and the community. To answer your question. No I don't think I would do something like Digg. Digg in its current form, and even when it started, is a glorified RSS feed; which doesn't even reflect the choice of the hive-mind or your interest. The real meat is in the community (just look at reddit). If you get the software right, the user will take you from there. Besides who else wants another source of distraction to get news?

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points 16y ago

Surely the whole idea is flawed. It's as useful as internet polls are. Once any site like digg/reddit/etc gets big enough to be worth gaming, it will be gamed.

adrianwaj 16y ago
Yes, and welcome to planet Earth. HN is moderated manually and automatically. Paypal is ruthlessly policed. Both have resulting unpleasant stories. Security is vigilance and striking a balance between many things. On HN, what interests me are Top Comments, how about you?
- points 16y ago
  Even top comments are often just appealing to lowest common denominator, current fashion, etc Democracy, and 1 vote per person is just a flawed system. Thankfully there is a fair bit of dictatorship on HN which keeps things fairly sane.
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  - yoasif_ 16y ago
    >Democracy, and 1 vote per person is just a flawed system. Thankfully there is a fair bit of dictatorship on HN which keeps things fairly sane. I agree, and this is where reddit, for instance fails. Once quippd gains a userbase that is interested in trolling and posting bad comments, we plan to implement a slashdot style moderation system (still the best moderation system out there, imo).

yoasif_ 16y ago

I actually have. We announced the site here http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1454934 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1454934 as well. The novel idea of quippd is to allow users to add/correct links/headlines/content in an effort to cut down the gaming -- no story is just about a single provider of content (optimally). Check out our coverage of the burning of qur'ans story for instance -- many articles being referenced, not a single source. http://quippd.com/show/2994/reply/4389/Florida_Church_plans_Quran-burning_event http://quippd.com/show/2994/reply/4389/Florida_Church_plans_...