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AMD Ryzen 7 2700X User Publishes Benchmarks and Overclocking Results
- mciancia 9y agoClickbait, overclocked Ryzen 7 2700X scores the same as i7 7820X. It's a bit different story
- O_H_E 9y agoSorry, please don't judge the site. This is my own title. Can you please elaborate on how is it a different story?
- kevindqc 9y agoIs it overclocked though? The article says it was overclocked to 4.3GHz. But that CPU has a turbo clock of 4.2GHz [1]. So maybe a 0.1 GHz overclock at most? Or none at all? That Intel CPU has a turbo clock of 4.5GHz, so AMD beats Intel at a lower clock speed? But then I read that turbo clock only affects the two most used cores... I guess it's pretty hard to compare lol 1. https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/ryzen_2700x_spotted_-_how_much_faster_is_it_than_a_1700x/1 https://overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/ryzen_2700x_spott...
- sp332 9y agoThat's the maximum turbo clock, which only kicks in when one or two cores are in use. Getting all cores to that speed does count as an overclock.
- bazooka_penguin 9y agoThe max turbo (xfr) is 4.35ghz. But it rarely hits that
- pcr0 9y agoFor about $100 cheaper.. The big news here is Intel not having a monopoly on desktop CPUs anymore. I personally remember Intel being the only serious CPU choice for building a desktop since at least 2015. Now a lot of low-medium high desktop builds are using Ryzen instead for the perf/$.
- digi_owl 9y agoThats because AMD basically bet the farm on the GPU replacing the FPU for doing floating point math, but never got any real traction for it on the OS level.
- keldaris 9y agoI'd buy that argument if they had actually showed any investment in helping that assumption come to pass. Instead, their ecosystem is a barren wasteland compared to what Nvidia has built.
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- dragontamer 9y ago> For about $100 cheaper.. More than that. An AM4 motherboard is way cheaper than Intel Extreme FCLGA2066 systems. By the end of the day, you're $200 cheaper once you account for a completed build (motherboard, RAM, CPU) compared to a FCLGA2066 + i7-7820X system. Really, the i7-7820X competes against Threadripper 1900X. Quad-channel memory and all that good stuff. The REAL competitor to the Ryzen 2700X is the Intel i7-8700k, which has outstanding price/performance and relatively cheap motherboards too. Hopefully we'll see more reviewers compare these two chips. Ryzen 2700X vs i7-8700k is the real battle.
- VladTheImplier 9y agoLovely news! This is my next CPU after many years of my trusty FX8350@4.8 GHz. Last time I waited for the second revision of the architecture to avoid the usual launch hurdles. Christmas is apparently coming in April this year.
- letsgetsilly 9y agoSame here. As a web developer and gamer it's hard to ignore the Intel lineup, but I'm a big fan of supporting the under-dog, and it makes it easy when there's so much value packed in. I assume that motherboards with new chipsets will be released as well, but I've heard less about them.
- O_H_E 9y agoThe Ryzen 2 lineup should work on the same AM4 socket, AMD claims that the newer X470 chipset will give better performance.
- sunstone 9y agoFX-6300 over here. Been waiting to upgrade for a while and looking forward one of these new AMD cpus.
- nobleach 9y agoAs someone who purchased (early adopted) the Ryzen 5 2400g APU a couple of days after release, I regret every bit of it. We still don't have any motherboards that support it well. I've heard the ASUS boards do okay but they have to be flashed to a new BIOS version (with a different processor in the socket). I'm glad that folks like the hype, but the reality is just terrible.
- agumonkey 9y agowhat would a good motherboard support bring ? (open question)
- nobleach 9y agoProcessor support? Voltages set reasonably. Just a decent burn in period before sending it out the door. Currently I'm running an ASRock B350M Pro4... and I can't keep that thing running more than 30 minutes. It's not high load that causes the freezing. It's just terrible on every front.
- agumonkey 9y agoerf, damning indeed
- frou_dh 9y agoThe first generation Ryzen 7 rollout was a bit of a mess as well. What with the (understandably) immature BIOSes, and tons of people RMAing CPUs to be replaced due to the segfaulting issue. AMD seem gaffe-prone. See also the pre-launch hype vs reality of Vega in the gaming space.
- shmerl 9y agoSo what's the best upgrade path from 1700X, 2700 or 2700X? 2700X sounds more like an upgrade from 1800X.
- TwoNineA 9y agoWhy do you want to upgrade the 1700X? What does the 2000 line bring other than a 15% (being very optimistic) performance gain?
- shmerl 9y agoPersonally, because my CPU has a hardware bug[1], which is now worked around by disabling package C6 state, and I already went through RMA for the segfault bug, so I'd rather now get a newer CPU to begin with. [1]: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196683 https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196683
- IronBacon 9y agoI think I've read locks/hangs' reports even with newer APUs, and at this moment I'm not sure if disabling C6 state on package (or was it core?) is an effective workaround. Or the suggestion to slightly increase voltage or a light overclock. I wanted to upgrade to Ryzen but I don't want to spend time to troubleshoot the HW. Seems like it's only triggered on a BSD/Linux system, don't know if they were joking when they said that Windos is never that idle...
- shmerl 9y ago> I think I've read locks/hangs' reports even with newer APUs, and at this moment I'm not sure if disabling C6 state on package (or was it core?) is an effective workaround. For me it is. It's triggered by the firmware setting: Advanced > AMD CBS > Zen Common Options > Power Supply Idle Control = "Common current idle" (instead of auto) That disables package C6 state for me (checked with zenstates.py), and freezes and random reboots disappear after that: C6 State - Package - Disabled C6 State - Core - Enabled On auto setting for the above, I get: C6 State - Package - Enabled C6 State - Core - Enabled And it highly annoyingly randomly freezes and reboots in such case. Another workaround is in the linked thread, to compile the kernel with special rcu options, I tried that, and it works, but it's not really a good method. > don't know if they were joking when they said that Windows is never that idle... I don't think they are joking.
- Aardwolf 9y ago> It also comes with a clear fan, for better RGB light illumination than its predecessor which only had an RGB ring. How did the RGB naming trend get started? Rgb leds and colorful illuminated gaming pc's both already existed for decades. But only recently I saw the name RGB pop up in motherboards, keyboards, etc... as if it's something new
- drakenot 9y agoI recently built a new PC so I had to wade into this space again. The main difference I believe is that many components themselves now have their own LED lighting. Before, it was primarily LED fans or light strips. Now, motherboards have their own LED line traces. Ram has it's own LED lights. There is also support to control the colors of these components from software.
- caretStick 9y ago> There is also support to control the colors of these components from software This is the definitive characteristic. You have customizable color on "RGB" hardware. If you have three LED's to support changing color, you might as well go with RGB and use a software-defined color. There is sometimes support for running all of the color changes from one piece of software but other times, you must reverse-engineer the commands yourself and write a central controller for it all. Could be a great pass-time. There's a tool for emitting the motherboard's bus commands along whatever standard, so if you figure out how to use the optional bits, you can make RAM glow in sync with the graphics card on an unsupported motherboard.
- monochromatic 9y agoIt’s also essentially impossible right now to buy a motherboard that isn’t tarted up with a bunch of stupid LED nonsense. (Unless you buy something low-end or server-grade.)
- nickpeterson 9y agoYeah it really ruins it honestly, back when I built machines I always went with black aluminium Lian li cases with no windows since they had a nice professional look. I just hate useless lights on anything.
- IronWolve 9y agoBeating an 8700K and 7820x, not bad at all. Nice to see AMD giving Intel some competition again. Hopefully this leads intel to drop prices,
- Carioca 9y agoThe 8700K's main draw over the Ryzens is single-core performance though.
- dragontamer 9y agoTrue, but it looks like these 2700X will come out under the 8700K's price point. So if a Ryzen7 2700X has better multithreaded (aka: compile times, blender rendering, etc. etc.) speeds than something spec'd ~$50 to ~$100 more than it, that's a winner by any stretch of the imagination. Single-core performance is most important in Javascript and Video Games. But most production tasks these days are multithreaded.
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- locusm 9y agoAdmittedly niche, but my main draw for the 8700K was Hackintosh compatibility.
- flyinghamster 9y agoNice incremental update, but since I already have a Ryzen 7 1700 on an Asrock X370 Taichi and it's been wonderful, I'll take a pass. If I hadn't already upgraded from my FX-6100, though, it would be worth looking into this one. As it stands, already having the 1700, I'd move up to a Threadripper if I could afford to upgrade, since a new motherboard would be needed anyway.
- RussianCow 9y ago> since a new motherboard would be needed anyway. Minor correction: The Ryzen 2000 series uses the same socket, so you can use the same motherboard, although AMD claims that the newer X470 chipset will give you better performance. Either way, I agree with your assessment: It doesn't seem worth it to upgrade if you already have a Ryzen 7.
- dogma1138 9y agoThe x470 and 370 chipsets are identical it’s a rebrand. They changed some of the power delivery requirements to match the higher TDP of some of CPUs and apparently not all previously made boards were upto snuff or at least that is the party line.
- tracker1 9y agoRunning an i7-4790K here, and still torn on upgrading, would like the extra threads and going more than 32gb ram, but not sure it's worth it or not still.
- Retric 9y agoLooks good. I am going to wait to see Intel's response, but this may finally be worth upgrading from an overclocked 2600k mostly used for gaming.
- baybal2 9y agoI wish AMD will make newer generations of their desktop CPUs chipsetless just as their motherboard cores. For Intel, going for a separate chipset is a requirement dictated by their design process and big die sizes, for AMD, it is just a way to make an additional $10-$20 per CPU sale. Chipsetless setup should allow for smaller motherboards with better POL setup.