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Ironic that a page that looks like this[0] on a 24" monitor is commenting on design. [0] https://imgur.com/a/nTdxg https://imgur.com/a/nTdxg

josteink 9y ago
Coincidentally earlier today, from a distance, I saw a colleague browse that very article (without seeing what it was about), and the white on cyan header-bar immediately reminded me of the good, old X11 window-manager CDE[0][1]. And it made me feel really nostalgic. I actually wanted to, just for one day, switch my laptop over to it. I bet it would have been blazingly fast. But alas, Ubuntu (and nobody else) seems to ship it any more. Seeing how building and running it from source required me to put some system-services into a insecure configuration, I reluctantly put the project away. I guess it comes off as no surprise that I on overall hate the reddit redesign and consider it a net negative change w.r.t. usability. I generally dislike how "modern" design things they make things better by taking away options and removing features. The "old" reddit gave you full overview of what was going on with all your activity in exactly 2 clicks. Super neat. Super efficient. The new ... I don't even know. I'm guessing much more than 10. And it involves scrolling and modal dialogues too. Fuck it. May the old layout remain an option for as long as I keep bother using the site. [0] https://a.fsdn.com/con/app/proj/cdesktopenv/screenshots/CDE-3.png/1 https://a.fsdn.com/con/app/proj/cdesktopenv/screenshots/CDE-... [1] https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/
- joveian 9y ago
  If you want a fast window manager try ratpoison (similar idea to GNU screen), which is widely available. It is really nice to have a window manager that actually manages your windows. If you use GNU screen (or, I assume but have never used, tmux) you can have two terminals sharing the same session for split screen use.
  - josteink 9y ago
    For those needs I've used i3[0] (and lately sway[1]), which both are really nice tiling WMs. Although sometimes, just sometimes... Having manually tweakable windows and a more complete "desktop environment" makes sense and is just what I need. For those needs, right now I use Gnome 3. It would be fun trying to replace that with CDE though :) [0] https://i3wm.org/ https://i3wm.org/ [1] http://swaywm.org/ http://swaywm.org/ [1]
1k2ka 9y ago
Actually looks pretty great to me. What do you consider wrong with it?
- jwilk 9y ago
  The image conveys little to no information, yet it takes the whole screen real estate.
- dingo_bat 9y ago
  I clicked on the link to read the article, not gape at a full screen illustration that adds literally no info! Why would the author want me to scroll 1200 pixels before I can read even the title?

josteink 9y ago

Coincidentally earlier today, from a distance, I saw a colleague browse that very article (without seeing what it was about), and the white on cyan header-bar immediately reminded me of the good, old X11 window-manager CDE[0][1]. And it made me feel really nostalgic. I actually wanted to, just for one day, switch my laptop over to it. I bet it would have been blazingly fast. But alas, Ubuntu (and nobody else) seems to ship it any more. Seeing how building and running it from source required me to put some system-services into a insecure configuration, I reluctantly put the project away. I guess it comes off as no surprise that I on overall hate the reddit redesign and consider it a net negative change w.r.t. usability. I generally dislike how "modern" design things they make things better by taking away options and removing features. The "old" reddit gave you full overview of what was going on with all your activity in exactly 2 clicks. Super neat. Super efficient. The new ... I don't even know. I'm guessing much more than 10. And it involves scrolling and modal dialogues too. Fuck it. May the old layout remain an option for as long as I keep bother using the site. [0] https://a.fsdn.com/con/app/proj/cdesktopenv/screenshots/CDE-3.png/1 https://a.fsdn.com/con/app/proj/cdesktopenv/screenshots/CDE-... [1] https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/ https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdesktopenv/

joveian 9y ago
If you want a fast window manager try ratpoison (similar idea to GNU screen), which is widely available. It is really nice to have a window manager that actually manages your windows. If you use GNU screen (or, I assume but have never used, tmux) you can have two terminals sharing the same session for split screen use.
- josteink 9y ago
  For those needs I've used i3[0] (and lately sway[1]), which both are really nice tiling WMs. Although sometimes, just sometimes... Having manually tweakable windows and a more complete "desktop environment" makes sense and is just what I need. For those needs, right now I use Gnome 3. It would be fun trying to replace that with CDE though :) [0] https://i3wm.org/ https://i3wm.org/ [1] http://swaywm.org/ http://swaywm.org/ [1]

1k2ka 9y ago

Actually looks pretty great to me. What do you consider wrong with it?

jwilk 9y ago
The image conveys little to no information, yet it takes the whole screen real estate.
dingo_bat 9y ago
I clicked on the link to read the article, not gape at a full screen illustration that adds literally no info! Why would the author want me to scroll 1200 pixels before I can read even the title?