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People tend to flag copycat posts about topics that have already been posted/discussed extensively. It's less about "Telsa fans" and more about "HN fans" who p

People tend to flag copycat posts about topics that have already been posted/discussed extensively. It's less about "Telsa fans" and more about "HN fans" who prefer the site to be focused on discussions about new, interesting things rather than repetitive outrage-inducing things. None of this is to say the topic isn't important, but a topic's importance is separate to how much value there is in discussing it repeatedly here, particularly when it stirs such heated emotions in some people.

simion314 9y ago
This video was the first timeThat topic was first time when it appeared, no one commented that it was here before and linked to that page, it was an actual video so not an opinion blog or media spin. The video was very clear and it showed a real problem, the system followed the wrong line on the roads and the comments were answering explaing what they thing it happened, what the capabilities and limitation of Tesla radar are( I learned that Tesla has a radar) and of course there were the skeptic comments that I think are the cause of those dislikes, I don't think is good for the community to disaprove of well thought skeptic comments, some of the readers here studied AI in universities and worked with AI and know about it's limitations and they can express the skepticism that the self driving hardware and software is not ready yet.
- DanBC 9y ago
  But, as has been pointed out above, the video has been posted here, and has been discussed here. There are over 200 comments about the video. The link you posted contains no new information.
  - simion314 9y ago
    You do not understand, I did not post this article, I commented that the posted video was gone suspiciously fast from first page, where other much less interesting topic were one the first page much more time that day, and I was sharing my conclusion(that could be wrong) that some Tesla fans (hopefully not the company PR) was involved
    - merricksb 9y ago
      If you notice "suspicious" voting activity or stories dropping off the front page faster than you believe is warranted, you should contact the mods via email (hn@ycombinator.com) rather than speculating in the comments, as the guidelines request [1]. This specific story might have been new, but the broader topic of the safety and functionality of assisted and autonomous driving systems has been extensively discussed over multiple articles in the past couple of weeks, and it's inevitable that members of the community will start to tire of any topic that has had extensive coverage for a sustained period of time. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - simion314 9y ago
        It would help to have some data to check my suspicions(I will check if there are some sites that track the stories and the votes patterns but not today ), anyway let's see what happens with the new video that reproduces the bug(https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16742391#16742956 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16742391#16742956)... now since this is similar to the other one I can see why won't be that engaging, most of what was said was already said on the first video posting. Edit: 15 minutes later , all Tesla posts are gone from the first page
        danso 9y ago
        I don't think there's a huge conspiracy. The Tesla crash had 2 different stories (the official blog post, plus separate news stories), 3 days ago: http://archive.is/4uQSR http://archive.is/4uQSR (snapshot of /best) And then yesterday, the Youtube video got 205 upvotes with 109 comments, which is pretty good exposure on the same topic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16732436 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16732436 Yesterday, there was also this side story with NTSB that got 90 upvotes and 98 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16730286 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16730286 So Tesla stories today might be getting flagged because users feel they are incremental updates.
        9y ago

simion314 9y ago

This video was the first timeThat topic was first time when it appeared, no one commented that it was here before and linked to that page, it was an actual video so not an opinion blog or media spin. The video was very clear and it showed a real problem, the system followed the wrong line on the roads and the comments were answering explaing what they thing it happened, what the capabilities and limitation of Tesla radar are( I learned that Tesla has a radar) and of course there were the skeptic comments that I think are the cause of those dislikes, I don't think is good for the community to disaprove of well thought skeptic comments, some of the readers here studied AI in universities and worked with AI and know about it's limitations and they can express the skepticism that the self driving hardware and software is not ready yet.

DanBC 9y ago
But, as has been pointed out above, the video has been posted here, and has been discussed here. There are over 200 comments about the video. The link you posted contains no new information.
- simion314 9y ago
  You do not understand, I did not post this article, I commented that the posted video was gone suspiciously fast from first page, where other much less interesting topic were one the first page much more time that day, and I was sharing my conclusion(that could be wrong) that some Tesla fans (hopefully not the company PR) was involved
  - merricksb 9y ago
    If you notice "suspicious" voting activity or stories dropping off the front page faster than you believe is warranted, you should contact the mods via email (hn@ycombinator.com) rather than speculating in the comments, as the guidelines request [1]. This specific story might have been new, but the broader topic of the safety and functionality of assisted and autonomous driving systems has been extensively discussed over multiple articles in the past couple of weeks, and it's inevitable that members of the community will start to tire of any topic that has had extensive coverage for a sustained period of time. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - simion314 9y ago
      It would help to have some data to check my suspicions(I will check if there are some sites that track the stories and the votes patterns but not today ), anyway let's see what happens with the new video that reproduces the bug(https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16742391#16742956 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16742391#16742956)... now since this is similar to the other one I can see why won't be that engaging, most of what was said was already said on the first video posting. Edit: 15 minutes later , all Tesla posts are gone from the first page
      - danso 9y ago
        I don't think there's a huge conspiracy. The Tesla crash had 2 different stories (the official blog post, plus separate news stories), 3 days ago: http://archive.is/4uQSR http://archive.is/4uQSR (snapshot of /best) And then yesterday, the Youtube video got 205 upvotes with 109 comments, which is pretty good exposure on the same topic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16732436 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16732436 Yesterday, there was also this side story with NTSB that got 90 upvotes and 98 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16730286 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16730286 So Tesla stories today might be getting flagged because users feel they are incremental updates.
        9y ago