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the biggest problem with macs is not the software/openness. the biggest problem is the price. the older models might have had a justifiable price, however the n

by merb 9y ago

the biggest problem with macs is not the software/openness. the biggest problem is the price. the older models might have had a justifiable price, however the new 15" models with a touch-whatever, costs way more and have less value. they actually even replaced the SD slot, which probably a lot of professional artists needed (or at least used). I used it to extend my harddrive with a 256gb extension card If I would need a new model (replacement for my pro late 13 model I would need to pay 1000 € more than for the late 13 (I need more harddisk space since 512gb wouldn't be enough and the sd card upgrade is insane.) even worse the late 13 had a 512gb sd, the new model costs 500€ more and has a 256gb sd card. just insane. dell sells me a precision with a dock more memory (32gb or 64gb) and the best processor that could be in a mac + 1tb ssd for the same amount than the cheapest new mac book pro. (it has ubuntu 16.04 preinstalled.)

freehunter 9y ago
>they actually even replaced the SD slot Isn't this the same argument people used when the Mac ditched the floppy, and then again when they ditched the CD-ROM drive?
- jjoonathan 9y ago
  And PS2 ports and phone jacks and ethernet ports, yes
  - 51Cards 9y ago
    Ethernet ports are still a pain to not have for us. I have staff that travel to sites and need to test hard lines to see if they are live and most of them forget their dongle from time to time. Life was easier when they had built in ports. I do realize for the average user though this is a non-issue.
    - m_mueller 9y ago
      IMO for MBPs there is no such thing as an ‘average user’. That kinda user buys Chromebooks nowadays. It’s almost all professionals and students with different fields and usecases, and almost everyone is inconvenienced by at least one of Apple’s recent choices, be it lack of USB—A, SD, HDMI, mini-DP, magsafe, more RAM, Ethernet, upgradable components or even optical drives. Edit: Oh and also lack of CUDA support i.e. NVIDIA cards.
threeseed 9y ago
1. You can buy MacBook Pros without the touch bar. 2. Professional photographers for a long time primarily used CompactFlash which has never had built in hardware support. So I can't imagine they are suddenly missing something they never had. It's the prosumers who were the heavy uses of SD cards and who were inconvenienced with the decision. Although most cameras come with WiFi these days so you can see Apple's thinking in removing the port. 3. Using a SD card as external storage is an awful idea. It was never designed for that much IO especially on OSX which can thrash storage devices pretty badly (check fs_usage). Just buy a USB-C enclosure and a 2.5inch hard drive like everyone else. Very cheap and comes in large sizes.
- merb 9y ago
  > 1. You can buy MacBook Pros without the touch bar. The old Model (15") (no new processor + no usb-c)

by merb 9y ago

freehunter 9y ago

>they actually even replaced the SD slot Isn't this the same argument people used when the Mac ditched the floppy, and then again when they ditched the CD-ROM drive?

jjoonathan 9y ago
And PS2 ports and phone jacks and ethernet ports, yes
- 51Cards 9y ago
  Ethernet ports are still a pain to not have for us. I have staff that travel to sites and need to test hard lines to see if they are live and most of them forget their dongle from time to time. Life was easier when they had built in ports. I do realize for the average user though this is a non-issue.
  - m_mueller 9y ago
    IMO for MBPs there is no such thing as an ‘average user’. That kinda user buys Chromebooks nowadays. It’s almost all professionals and students with different fields and usecases, and almost everyone is inconvenienced by at least one of Apple’s recent choices, be it lack of USB—A, SD, HDMI, mini-DP, magsafe, more RAM, Ethernet, upgradable components or even optical drives. Edit: Oh and also lack of CUDA support i.e. NVIDIA cards.

threeseed 9y ago

1. You can buy MacBook Pros without the touch bar. 2. Professional photographers for a long time primarily used CompactFlash which has never had built in hardware support. So I can't imagine they are suddenly missing something they never had. It's the prosumers who were the heavy uses of SD cards and who were inconvenienced with the decision. Although most cameras come with WiFi these days so you can see Apple's thinking in removing the port. 3. Using a SD card as external storage is an awful idea. It was never designed for that much IO especially on OSX which can thrash storage devices pretty badly (check fs_usage). Just buy a USB-C enclosure and a 2.5inch hard drive like everyone else. Very cheap and comes in large sizes.

merb 9y ago
> 1. You can buy MacBook Pros without the touch bar. The old Model (15") (no new processor + no usb-c)