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From personal experience I can say that I am certain that both Dieter Zetsche and Harald Krüger know more about basically every aspect of producing cars than El

From personal experience I can say that I am certain that both Dieter Zetsche and Harald Krüger know more about basically every aspect of producing cars than Elon Musk ever will. Both are very much hands-on people and have 3-4 decades of experience.

greglindahl 9y ago
You know all 3 of these people well? Wow.
- ucaetano 9y ago
  "Zetsche joined Daimler-Benz in 1976, working in the research department. In 1981, he became Assistant Development Manager at the Vehicles business unit. He became a member of DaimlerChrysler's Board of Management in 1998 and served as the President/CEO of Chrysler Group from mid-2000 to 31 December 2005, where he was credited with a turnaround of DCX's American operations. Since 1 January 2006 he succeeded Jürgen Schrempp as Chairman of DaimlerChrysler (now Daimler AG), being succeeded in the position of Chrysler Group CEO by Thomas W. LaSorda." and "Mr. Krüger joined BMW in April 1992 and served as Director of its Production Strategy, Control and Planning Division. He managed BMW Group's engine plant at Hams Hall in the UK and served a number of positions within the Human Resources division. He served as the Chairman and Director of Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Ltd. from May 1, 2012 to March 31, 2013. Mr. Krüger serves as a Director of BMW Manufacturing Co. LLC." Yep, quite a fair bet that any of those two know far more about auto-making than Musk ever will.
  - annerajb 9y ago
    Ever is a long timeframe especially if Tesla continues selling double yoy.
    - FireBeyond 9y ago
      I'm not sure how Musk's experience grows with sales on a linear basis. Or how sustainable "double yoy" sales are.
    - ucaetano 9y ago
      Double yoy? Where? https://www.statista.com/statistics/502208/tesla-quarterly-vehicle-deliveries/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/502208/tesla-quarterly-v...
  - greglindahl 9y ago
    I totally believe that reading resumes can support the conclusion, but stannol claimed they knew this info from personal experience.
  - btian 9y ago
    How is that your personal experience?
    - FireBeyond 9y ago
      The person who posted that wasn't the same person.
Jesus_Jones 9y ago
Even if they have lots of experience, they failed to see how that the market was going to have to seriously build evs. It took an 'idiot outsider' like Musk to push it as far as it can go. and now we know that separately from the business success of tesla that it's possible to make successful and interesting electric cars like teslas, but also other companies have interesting cars.
taheca 9y ago
Yet they never thought to move away from making cars with internal combustion engines and 2k parts vs 200. Say what you want about how long it is taking them to get going, Tesla make excellent cars and the longer they make them the better they will be.

greglindahl 9y ago

You know all 3 of these people well? Wow.

ucaetano 9y ago
"Zetsche joined Daimler-Benz in 1976, working in the research department. In 1981, he became Assistant Development Manager at the Vehicles business unit. He became a member of DaimlerChrysler's Board of Management in 1998 and served as the President/CEO of Chrysler Group from mid-2000 to 31 December 2005, where he was credited with a turnaround of DCX's American operations. Since 1 January 2006 he succeeded Jürgen Schrempp as Chairman of DaimlerChrysler (now Daimler AG), being succeeded in the position of Chrysler Group CEO by Thomas W. LaSorda." and "Mr. Krüger joined BMW in April 1992 and served as Director of its Production Strategy, Control and Planning Division. He managed BMW Group's engine plant at Hams Hall in the UK and served a number of positions within the Human Resources division. He served as the Chairman and Director of Rolls-Royce Motor Cars Ltd. from May 1, 2012 to March 31, 2013. Mr. Krüger serves as a Director of BMW Manufacturing Co. LLC." Yep, quite a fair bet that any of those two know far more about auto-making than Musk ever will.
- annerajb 9y ago
  Ever is a long timeframe especially if Tesla continues selling double yoy.
  - FireBeyond 9y ago
    I'm not sure how Musk's experience grows with sales on a linear basis. Or how sustainable "double yoy" sales are.
  - ucaetano 9y ago
    Double yoy? Where? https://www.statista.com/statistics/502208/tesla-quarterly-vehicle-deliveries/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/502208/tesla-quarterly-v...
- greglindahl 9y ago
  I totally believe that reading resumes can support the conclusion, but stannol claimed they knew this info from personal experience.
- btian 9y ago
  How is that your personal experience?
  - FireBeyond 9y ago
    The person who posted that wasn't the same person.

Jesus_Jones 9y ago

Even if they have lots of experience, they failed to see how that the market was going to have to seriously build evs. It took an 'idiot outsider' like Musk to push it as far as it can go. and now we know that separately from the business success of tesla that it's possible to make successful and interesting electric cars like teslas, but also other companies have interesting cars.

taheca 9y ago

Yet they never thought to move away from making cars with internal combustion engines and 2k parts vs 200. Say what you want about how long it is taking them to get going, Tesla make excellent cars and the longer they make them the better they will be.