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Facebook made it deliberately difficult and obfuscated to report violations as well. Twitter by comparison makes it relatively frictionless. I don't use Faceboo

Facebook made it deliberately difficult and obfuscated to report violations as well. Twitter by comparison makes it relatively frictionless. I don't use Facebook except to follow some news sources but I now follow them on Twitter and barely use Facebook. I know one is supposed to assume incompetence where malice is seen but gosh, I can't decide where Facebook falls yet.

m52go 9y ago
I think the point the parent is making is that standards are being applied unevenly. On Twitter, for example, there are a host of accounts that have been banned for seemingly harmless activity while other accounts with much more serious issues remain active. Despite it being easier to report violations on Twitter (taking your word for it...I have no personal experience), standards aren't being applied fairly. That undermines the whole point of standards.
TallGuyShort 9y ago
Facebook is notorious from both ends of this, it seems. I've had a Facebook marketplace post taken down with no explanation other than a copy of the guidelines, I appealed, and now my marketplace posts simply don't get seen by other people, even if they search for them. I've had a friend's account get suspended for a meme that pissed some people off, while a legit neo-Nazi group that had Swastikas on the page I had reported months earlier for making comments about the extinction of the pure white race was still up. It seems they only police enough to claim they do. They don't actually do much that anyone is happy with.
- tim333 9y ago
  You'd think something like a simple downvote button that lowers the probability of the post being seen would kinda work.
  - TallGuyShort 9y ago
    I would think that's ripe for abuse. For curating my personal feed, I've been fairly content to unfollow people I want to remain friends with and hide posts shared from specific accounts. I don't actually see neo-Nazi posts routinely - but they're clearly less banned from using the platform to communicate than my attempts to sell used sports equipment are. And I honestly wouldn't care if Facebook left their page in peace in the name of free speech and diversity of opinions, but then at least have the decency to tell me why I can't post on the marketplace. Like I said - it's the claim that they police content - it only inconveniences and confuses people instead of actually getting rid of bad content.
Const-me 9y ago
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/11/30/salary/ https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/11/30/salary/
tim333 9y ago
I just checked and they seem to have made it easier. Click the "..." at the top right of the post, click 'Give Feedback', click 'hate speech' or whatever.

m52go 9y ago

I think the point the parent is making is that standards are being applied unevenly. On Twitter, for example, there are a host of accounts that have been banned for seemingly harmless activity while other accounts with much more serious issues remain active. Despite it being easier to report violations on Twitter (taking your word for it...I have no personal experience), standards aren't being applied fairly. That undermines the whole point of standards.

TallGuyShort 9y ago

Facebook is notorious from both ends of this, it seems. I've had a Facebook marketplace post taken down with no explanation other than a copy of the guidelines, I appealed, and now my marketplace posts simply don't get seen by other people, even if they search for them. I've had a friend's account get suspended for a meme that pissed some people off, while a legit neo-Nazi group that had Swastikas on the page I had reported months earlier for making comments about the extinction of the pure white race was still up. It seems they only police enough to claim they do. They don't actually do much that anyone is happy with.

tim333 9y ago
You'd think something like a simple downvote button that lowers the probability of the post being seen would kinda work.
- TallGuyShort 9y ago
  I would think that's ripe for abuse. For curating my personal feed, I've been fairly content to unfollow people I want to remain friends with and hide posts shared from specific accounts. I don't actually see neo-Nazi posts routinely - but they're clearly less banned from using the platform to communicate than my attempts to sell used sports equipment are. And I honestly wouldn't care if Facebook left their page in peace in the name of free speech and diversity of opinions, but then at least have the decency to tell me why I can't post on the marketplace. Like I said - it's the claim that they police content - it only inconveniences and confuses people instead of actually getting rid of bad content.

Const-me 9y ago

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/11/30/salary/ https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/11/30/salary/

tim333 9y ago

I just checked and they seem to have made it easier. Click the "..." at the top right of the post, click 'Give Feedback', click 'hate speech' or whatever.