I'm not rejecting the "woo woo" actually. Just explaining the downvotes. As u/hosh 's comment showed, the amount of work required to get to an agreed definitio

I'm not rejecting the "woo woo" actually. Just explaining the downvotes. As u/hosh 's comment showed, the amount of work required to get to an agreed definition of terms, just means that these conversations are not ideal for this type of discussion board. It is totally possible to do, but the length of each response means that these conversations are better served off line. Or with specific online communities who have already cut through a lot of the mess, to come to a shared understanding on some topics. Sorry this is just a semantic argument, when you are trying to have a deeper one. But my only real issue with your last comment is that it is very difficult to read, and would benefit from some paragraph breaks.