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Yes but what's the success rate?

ebbv 9y ago
The success rate of never smoking/vaping in the first place is 100%. The success rate of quitting is really up to the individual, much like weight loss or other self improvement stuff. But even if it's hard it's the thing you should do. I'm really not sure what you're arguing. "Quitting is hard and a lot of people fail so .. don't quit." That's some lame mentality right there.
- truculation 9y ago
  >"Quitting is hard and a lot of people fail so .. don't quit." No, I asked: what should vaping be replaced with?
  - ebbv 9y ago
    Oh my god are you serious with this? I’m gonna guess from the quality of this exchange you vape.
    - dang 9y ago
      Would you please do a better job of following the site guidelines? You frequently either cross the line or straddle it. By doing this, you damage the community in its most vulnerable place. I'm sure you wouldn't do that with other shared resources, and since you use HN, we'd appreciate your helping to take care of it as well, even when other comments are annoying, wrong, or absurd. Especially then. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - Crespyl 9y ago
    Gum seems to be fairly traditional. Obviously the goal is "not inhaling things that aren't air".
    - truculation 9y ago
      >Gum seems to be fairly traditional Do you mean nicotine gum? Isn't that bad for your gums? Or do you mean plain chewing gum?
      - moate 9y ago
        Not OP, but chewing normal non-nic gum is commonly used as in combination with other quitting methods to help appeal to the physical oral sensations associate with smoking (obviously it's not a perfect proxy, but just "something to do with your mouth). Ultimately, all cessation methods are aiming to require 0 nicotine at their conclusion. As for the "best thing" to do when trying to quit, financial loss seems to be a good incentive. http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1414293 http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1414293
  - DanBC 9y ago
    If children are smoking, and they're cutting down using vaping, then you don't replace it, or you replace it with another smoking cessation method. If they're not smoking you don't want them to start vaping.
- miragle 9y ago
  > The success rate of never smoking/vaping in the first place is 100%. If it were, then nobody would start smoking. This is like saying the rhythm method has a 100% success rate. It's only true if you do it perfectly. Nobody does.

ebbv 9y ago

The success rate of never smoking/vaping in the first place is 100%. The success rate of quitting is really up to the individual, much like weight loss or other self improvement stuff. But even if it's hard it's the thing you should do. I'm really not sure what you're arguing. "Quitting is hard and a lot of people fail so .. don't quit." That's some lame mentality right there.

truculation 9y ago
>"Quitting is hard and a lot of people fail so .. don't quit." No, I asked: what should vaping be replaced with?
- ebbv 9y ago
  Oh my god are you serious with this? I’m gonna guess from the quality of this exchange you vape.
  - dang 9y ago
    Would you please do a better job of following the site guidelines? You frequently either cross the line or straddle it. By doing this, you damage the community in its most vulnerable place. I'm sure you wouldn't do that with other shared resources, and since you use HN, we'd appreciate your helping to take care of it as well, even when other comments are annoying, wrong, or absurd. Especially then. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- Crespyl 9y ago
  Gum seems to be fairly traditional. Obviously the goal is "not inhaling things that aren't air".
  - truculation 9y ago
    >Gum seems to be fairly traditional Do you mean nicotine gum? Isn't that bad for your gums? Or do you mean plain chewing gum?
    - moate 9y ago
      Not OP, but chewing normal non-nic gum is commonly used as in combination with other quitting methods to help appeal to the physical oral sensations associate with smoking (obviously it's not a perfect proxy, but just "something to do with your mouth). Ultimately, all cessation methods are aiming to require 0 nicotine at their conclusion. As for the "best thing" to do when trying to quit, financial loss seems to be a good incentive. http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1414293 http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1414293
- DanBC 9y ago
  If children are smoking, and they're cutting down using vaping, then you don't replace it, or you replace it with another smoking cessation method. If they're not smoking you don't want them to start vaping.
miragle 9y ago
> The success rate of never smoking/vaping in the first place is 100%. If it were, then nobody would start smoking. This is like saying the rhythm method has a 100% success rate. It's only true if you do it perfectly. Nobody does.