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This is pretty shocking, more so than any other autopilot related news or videos I've seen. It's something that no normal driver paying attention would ever do.

This is pretty shocking, more so than any other autopilot related news or videos I've seen. It's something that no normal driver paying attention would ever do. This further confirms for me the feeling that autopilot in cars won't become even remotely common for another decade, especially in any parts of the country with poor weather.

entropie 9y ago
There will be bugs. This is the beginning and I only find it interesting and not in any ways shocking.
loceng 9y ago
From my understanding the driver who died in the crash had previously reported problems in this area. I wonder if it was this specific crash site or not, I wonder why too if the person was aware of it why they didn't pay more attention during it - and to stop trusting it. I can understand how easy it is to be uncertain of something and have enough trust or rather a thread of hope that "nothing bad will happen to me." I wonder too, if it's true that the person who died in the crash reported the area, what process Tesla followed and .. Any area reported with a problem IMHO should immediately start warning other drivers going in the same area until the issue is resolved, even disabling auto-pilot completely until Tesla's resolved it. I'm sure that would make people safer than the temporary inconveniences they would cause - I'd hope people would take that attitude anyway.
- floatingatoll 9y ago
  If the driver previously reported problems on a section of roadway and was then inattentive when driving that section of roadway, that’s a perfect setup for a reckless driving ticket. They knew a problem existed and recklessly ignored it. Autopilot does not excuse this in any way whatsoever.
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maxerickson 9y ago
Probably best not to think of Tesla as the standard bearer. You can go back through Animats comments here and see criticism of the (apparent) approach Tesla is using, for months and months: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=by:Animats%20Tesla%20map&sort=byPopularity&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=by:Animats%20Tesla%20map&sort=...
stmfreak 9y ago
And yet, someone had destroyed the crash barrier prior to this fatality. Locals report this happens often.
- stilllovetsla 9y ago
  And that person was drunk driving. So your $100k Tesla operates at the same level as a drunk driver
mschwaig 9y ago
An autopilot does not have to outperform a human driver in every imaginable situation as long as we make smart tradeoffs regarding what the machine can and cannot deal with and there are still significant advantages over humans in the managable common case. There may not be a solution in sight for making robots deal with badly marked roads for example, but we might be able to just sidestep the problem with better road markings or more conservative handover-to-human protocols in areas with improperly marked roads.

entropie 9y ago

There will be bugs. This is the beginning and I only find it interesting and not in any ways shocking.

loceng 9y ago

From my understanding the driver who died in the crash had previously reported problems in this area. I wonder if it was this specific crash site or not, I wonder why too if the person was aware of it why they didn't pay more attention during it - and to stop trusting it. I can understand how easy it is to be uncertain of something and have enough trust or rather a thread of hope that "nothing bad will happen to me." I wonder too, if it's true that the person who died in the crash reported the area, what process Tesla followed and .. Any area reported with a problem IMHO should immediately start warning other drivers going in the same area until the issue is resolved, even disabling auto-pilot completely until Tesla's resolved it. I'm sure that would make people safer than the temporary inconveniences they would cause - I'd hope people would take that attitude anyway.

floatingatoll 9y ago
If the driver previously reported problems on a section of roadway and was then inattentive when driving that section of roadway, that’s a perfect setup for a reckless driving ticket. They knew a problem existed and recklessly ignored it. Autopilot does not excuse this in any way whatsoever.
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maxerickson 9y ago

Probably best not to think of Tesla as the standard bearer. You can go back through Animats comments here and see criticism of the (apparent) approach Tesla is using, for months and months: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=by:Animats%20Tesla%20map&sort=byPopularity&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=by:Animats%20Tesla%20map&sort=...

stmfreak 9y ago

And yet, someone had destroyed the crash barrier prior to this fatality. Locals report this happens often.

stilllovetsla 9y ago
And that person was drunk driving. So your $100k Tesla operates at the same level as a drunk driver

mschwaig 9y ago

An autopilot does not have to outperform a human driver in every imaginable situation as long as we make smart tradeoffs regarding what the machine can and cannot deal with and there are still significant advantages over humans in the managable common case. There may not be a solution in sight for making robots deal with badly marked roads for example, but we might be able to just sidestep the problem with better road markings or more conservative handover-to-human protocols in areas with improperly marked roads.