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> many don't often for tragedy of the commons reasons. Google are some of the major culprits driving the creation of an unpleasant web experience loaded with t

> many don't often for tragedy of the commons reasons. Google are some of the major culprits driving the creation of an unpleasant web experience loaded with tracking and advertising cruft, and now they're pushing this alternative format to supposedly fix the damage they wrought. That's why people are salty about AMP. It's an imperfect analogy, but imagine if some company had torn up the roads near your house by driving their heavy cargo trucks over it, and now you're irritated by the potholes, that same company says, "Great news! If you just buy our special tires and shocks and install them on your car, you'll have a smoother ride with fewer bumps from potholes!"

endorphone 9y ago
Google has pushed speed in virtually everything they've done since day one. Asynchronous, deferred scripts. Always outrageously fast loads. Simple, lightweight ads. They even built a browser to try to push speed. I despise ads, but blaming Google for the situation that we're in is seriously missing the mark. Google wants the web to succeed, for their own selfish reasons. They don't want it to become a wasteland of zombie scripts, cryptomining, pop-overs, and abuse (which tends to be even worse on mobile, as an aside, abusers knowing that mobile users often have fewer tools). They have been pushing pro-web policies since the early days. AMP, as cynical as people can be about it, is one of those.
- ForHackernews 9y ago
  Google monetized links. They were the ones who showed you could make serious money from tracking and marketing to people on the internet. Your argument is "Google is more technically competent at doing all these crappy things than Google's imitators", but Google was the trailblazer who proved there was big money in ads and scripts that do more than blink a banner.
  - endorphone 9y ago
    No, that isn't my argument, and given that you're busy taking swipes at absurd strawmen I think this conversation is done.

endorphone 9y ago

Google has pushed speed in virtually everything they've done since day one. Asynchronous, deferred scripts. Always outrageously fast loads. Simple, lightweight ads. They even built a browser to try to push speed. I despise ads, but blaming Google for the situation that we're in is seriously missing the mark. Google wants the web to succeed, for their own selfish reasons. They don't want it to become a wasteland of zombie scripts, cryptomining, pop-overs, and abuse (which tends to be even worse on mobile, as an aside, abusers knowing that mobile users often have fewer tools). They have been pushing pro-web policies since the early days. AMP, as cynical as people can be about it, is one of those.

ForHackernews 9y ago
Google monetized links. They were the ones who showed you could make serious money from tracking and marketing to people on the internet. Your argument is "Google is more technically competent at doing all these crappy things than Google's imitators", but Google was the trailblazer who proved there was big money in ads and scripts that do more than blink a banner.
- endorphone 9y ago
  No, that isn't my argument, and given that you're busy taking swipes at absurd strawmen I think this conversation is done.