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I can totally see how a human driver can crash in this situation if he or she is solely focused on the lane markings. This puts the lie to Tesla and Mobileye's

I can totally see how a human driver can crash in this situation if he or she is solely focused on the lane markings. This puts the lie to Tesla and Mobileye's claims that camera-based computer vision is enough for autonomy just because humans use two low-res cameras to drive.

friedman23 9y ago
> This puts the lie to Tesla and Mobileye's claims that camera-based computer vision is enough for autonomy. How are these things related? Are you suggesting that cameras are not sufficient for self driving?
- sudhirj 9y ago
  The companies are stating that they won't be using LIDAR or Radar, and that cameras are enough. Cameras tend to rely on markers of some sort - and in cases like the markers on the road were very misleading. Even a short-sighted beginner human driver who was told to carefully follow the lanes would have made the same mistake. And cars running purely on cameras are comparably to short sighted baby human drivers.
  - tensor 9y ago
    At the rate camera technology is advancing, pretty soon human will be the short sighted babies.
  - manicdee 9y ago
    Tesla uses radar, and are working on improving their radar to return point clouds just like lidar does. Even then, cameras are enough for accurately mapping the world around the car, it’s just that Tesla’s state of the art has not matched the academic proofs of concept that have been demonstrated over the last few years.
rohit2412 9y ago
I wouldn't call it Tesla and Mobileeye's claims. It was Elon musk who made such an unsubstantiated claim, and Mobileye broke the partnership because of this exact claim.
mateuszf 9y ago
> This puts the lie to Tesla and Mobileye's claims that camera-based computer vision is enough for autonomy just because humans use two low-res cameras to drive. No, it doesn't. It just means that current Tesla's implementation of camera-based computer vision is not yet good enough.

friedman23 9y ago

> This puts the lie to Tesla and Mobileye's claims that camera-based computer vision is enough for autonomy. How are these things related? Are you suggesting that cameras are not sufficient for self driving?

sudhirj 9y ago
The companies are stating that they won't be using LIDAR or Radar, and that cameras are enough. Cameras tend to rely on markers of some sort - and in cases like the markers on the road were very misleading. Even a short-sighted beginner human driver who was told to carefully follow the lanes would have made the same mistake. And cars running purely on cameras are comparably to short sighted baby human drivers.
- tensor 9y ago
  At the rate camera technology is advancing, pretty soon human will be the short sighted babies.
- manicdee 9y ago
  Tesla uses radar, and are working on improving their radar to return point clouds just like lidar does. Even then, cameras are enough for accurately mapping the world around the car, it’s just that Tesla’s state of the art has not matched the academic proofs of concept that have been demonstrated over the last few years.

rohit2412 9y ago

I wouldn't call it Tesla and Mobileeye's claims. It was Elon musk who made such an unsubstantiated claim, and Mobileye broke the partnership because of this exact claim.

mateuszf 9y ago

> This puts the lie to Tesla and Mobileye's claims that camera-based computer vision is enough for autonomy just because humans use two low-res cameras to drive. No, it doesn't. It just means that current Tesla's implementation of camera-based computer vision is not yet good enough.