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Answer: not as fast as the D lang forums. https://forum.dlang.org/ https://forum.dlang.org/

by Shorel 9y ago

tzahola 9y ago
Wow, that site indeed feels fast! Is there a writeup about how it’s done?
- Jackim 9y ago
  There's a bit of discussion about it here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3592769 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3592769 Source of the site is here: https://github.com/CyberShadow/DFeed https://github.com/CyberShadow/DFeed
- jordigh 9y ago
  And the software isn't just rendering the forums. It also simultaneously handles email, Usenet, and IRC relays. Also, it runs on SQLite. I found that the most surprising of all. Web development in D is incredibly fun. I love that I can compile HTML templates into machine code (which of courses catches template errors as compiler errors), I love how fast the result is, I love that there is a very lively collection of D packages around web development. In fact, the D package manager, dub, started as a package manager for Vibe.d, the main D web framework.
- giancarlostoro 9y ago
  You can find the source on GitHub it not only runs a web server... It runs an IRC bot too and an NNTP server as well so you can download all threads and post with a newsreader / usenet client.
tylerl 9y ago
And not NEARLY as fast as example.com!
Waterluvian 9y ago
Holy crap. The internet on a phone can feel like this?!
- cptskippy 9y ago
  It didn't seem that fast to me compared to other sites, then I realized I'm running Firefox with uBlock while the rest of you are probably on Chrome.
  - Waterluvian 9y ago
    On a phone? Last time I tried adblocking on a phone I was super irritated by it. Some proxy setup that never quite worked and felt like it slowed everything down.
    - guu 9y ago
      On iPhone you can use a safari content blocker like purify or 1blocker. On Android you can use Firefox and ublock.
    - colordrops 9y ago
      Try Brave browser. It's a modified version of Chromium with seemless ad blocking by the co-founder of Mozilla.
      - colordrops 9y ago
        Can't edit my post since it's been 3 hours, but I'm very curious why I was downvoted. Was there some negative news around Brave that I missed?
        Sylos 9y ago
        Not aware of any negative news. I presume it was because prior to my comment, no one had yet explained to the guy that you don't need to deal with such a proxy setup to block ads in browsers. So, your comment sort of made it sound like ad blocking not being too great for him, was because of Firefox and that Brave would be better at it, whereas it really just was because of a missunderstanding of the guy. Besides that, Brave is also controversial. As much as some people have screamed bloody murder, because Eich's free speech was supposedly taken away by journalists/SJWs/Mozilla or whoever, a good other percentage of people do think that his donation was wrong and that he should have reflected on it and distanced himself from this (past) opinion. Furthermore, many people think him basing it on Chromium was wrong. No matter how pissed off he might've been at Camp Mozilla, and no matter how much journalists would've slandered him again, if he started supposedly trying to work with Mozilla again by starting a fork of Firefox, there's just no way that you can work for 17 years on anything and then a few months later go "Actually, this competing product is better". Chromium being Google software and him trying to sell his Chromium-based browser as privacy-friendly does not help it either. There's millions of lines of code in there with tens of thousands of design decisions, all made by the biggest data broker on the planet. You're not patching all of those out in any reasonable time frame.
mehrdadn 9y ago
If you really think that's fast (and you're on the west coast...), try: https://www.changedetection.com/directory.html https://www.changedetection.com/directory.html Sadly it seems you can't register new accounts anymore because of their merger(?) with VisualPing, but their old site still functions for those with accounts and the speed is mindblowing as you can see there. I feel every website should strive to be like this.
yiransheng 9y ago
Really impressed! Took a quick look at page source, a couple of observations on why it's fast: 1. Plain, small html - page size is 6.1 kb (request took 700ms for me, I guess the server side rendering is pretty fast too), css file 11kb; note html, css and js are all properly minified 2. Font-awesome and jquery at the bottom of page to not block page rendering, both loaded throught cdn (although a fallback jQuery exists) 3. Site's own js is only 5.6k 4. No large static assets, only image on page is an svg dlogo 5. Did not check with js off, but saw hints of decent fallbacks for no-script
rolae 9y ago
Truly impressive is https://www.gov.uk/ https://www.gov.uk/ A government site, lightning fast, try the search! No bullshit design.
- Nux 9y ago
  Yes, I'm always impressed when I have to deal with it. Truly amazing to find such competence in a gov site. A lot of that is done in the open, too. https://alphagov.github.io/ https://alphagov.github.io/
  - flr03 9y ago
    The uk gov website is a blessing, now leaving in the UK I can compare with the french ones and those are not playing in the same league.
- overcast 9y ago
  My hope is that a trend towards server side, text only sites becomes a thing. You can make things beautiful with typography, and layout, without superfluous pictures and designs.
- lambdadmitry 9y ago
  Moreover they run a/b tests there! https://docs.publishing.service.gov.uk/manual/ab-testing.html https://docs.publishing.service.gov.uk/manual/ab-testing.htm...
- flooq 9y ago
  Not just a site too. Almost every significant government service is being migrated to that domain, linked from that site and designed to the same standards.
bramjans 9y ago
Nice! The last time I had that fast feeling was with https://changelog.com/ https://changelog.com/, written in Phoenix (Elixir).
throwaway_80bf3 9y ago
lobste.rs is usually pretty fast but they have a silly and annoying April fools thing going on right now. I once did a dive into their CSS to see how they were doing collapsible tree style comments without any JS whatsoever. https://lobste.rs https://lobste.rs

Answer: not as fast as the D lang forums. https://forum.dlang.org/ https://forum.dlang.org/

by Shorel 9y ago

Answer: not as fast as the D lang forums. https://forum.dlang.org/ https://forum.dlang.org/

tzahola 9y ago

Wow, that site indeed feels fast! Is there a writeup about how it’s done?

Jackim 9y ago
There's a bit of discussion about it here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3592769 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3592769 Source of the site is here: https://github.com/CyberShadow/DFeed https://github.com/CyberShadow/DFeed
jordigh 9y ago
And the software isn't just rendering the forums. It also simultaneously handles email, Usenet, and IRC relays. Also, it runs on SQLite. I found that the most surprising of all. Web development in D is incredibly fun. I love that I can compile HTML templates into machine code (which of courses catches template errors as compiler errors), I love how fast the result is, I love that there is a very lively collection of D packages around web development. In fact, the D package manager, dub, started as a package manager for Vibe.d, the main D web framework.
giancarlostoro 9y ago
You can find the source on GitHub it not only runs a web server... It runs an IRC bot too and an NNTP server as well so you can download all threads and post with a newsreader / usenet client.

tylerl 9y ago

And not NEARLY as fast as example.com!

Waterluvian 9y ago

Holy crap. The internet on a phone can feel like this?!

cptskippy 9y ago
It didn't seem that fast to me compared to other sites, then I realized I'm running Firefox with uBlock while the rest of you are probably on Chrome.
- Waterluvian 9y ago
  On a phone? Last time I tried adblocking on a phone I was super irritated by it. Some proxy setup that never quite worked and felt like it slowed everything down.
  - guu 9y ago
    On iPhone you can use a safari content blocker like purify or 1blocker. On Android you can use Firefox and ublock.
  - colordrops 9y ago
    Try Brave browser. It's a modified version of Chromium with seemless ad blocking by the co-founder of Mozilla.
    - colordrops 9y ago
      Can't edit my post since it's been 3 hours, but I'm very curious why I was downvoted. Was there some negative news around Brave that I missed?
      - Sylos 9y ago
        Not aware of any negative news. I presume it was because prior to my comment, no one had yet explained to the guy that you don't need to deal with such a proxy setup to block ads in browsers. So, your comment sort of made it sound like ad blocking not being too great for him, was because of Firefox and that Brave would be better at it, whereas it really just was because of a missunderstanding of the guy. Besides that, Brave is also controversial. As much as some people have screamed bloody murder, because Eich's free speech was supposedly taken away by journalists/SJWs/Mozilla or whoever, a good other percentage of people do think that his donation was wrong and that he should have reflected on it and distanced himself from this (past) opinion. Furthermore, many people think him basing it on Chromium was wrong. No matter how pissed off he might've been at Camp Mozilla, and no matter how much journalists would've slandered him again, if he started supposedly trying to work with Mozilla again by starting a fork of Firefox, there's just no way that you can work for 17 years on anything and then a few months later go "Actually, this competing product is better". Chromium being Google software and him trying to sell his Chromium-based browser as privacy-friendly does not help it either. There's millions of lines of code in there with tens of thousands of design decisions, all made by the biggest data broker on the planet. You're not patching all of those out in any reasonable time frame.

mehrdadn 9y ago

If you really think that's fast (and you're on the west coast...), try: https://www.changedetection.com/directory.html https://www.changedetection.com/directory.html Sadly it seems you can't register new accounts anymore because of their merger(?) with VisualPing, but their old site still functions for those with accounts and the speed is mindblowing as you can see there. I feel every website should strive to be like this.

yiransheng 9y ago

Really impressed! Took a quick look at page source, a couple of observations on why it's fast: 1. Plain, small html - page size is 6.1 kb (request took 700ms for me, I guess the server side rendering is pretty fast too), css file 11kb; note html, css and js are all properly minified 2. Font-awesome and jquery at the bottom of page to not block page rendering, both loaded throught cdn (although a fallback jQuery exists) 3. Site's own js is only 5.6k 4. No large static assets, only image on page is an svg dlogo 5. Did not check with js off, but saw hints of decent fallbacks for no-script

rolae 9y ago

Truly impressive is https://www.gov.uk/ https://www.gov.uk/ A government site, lightning fast, try the search! No bullshit design.

Nux 9y ago
Yes, I'm always impressed when I have to deal with it. Truly amazing to find such competence in a gov site. A lot of that is done in the open, too. https://alphagov.github.io/ https://alphagov.github.io/
- flr03 9y ago
  The uk gov website is a blessing, now leaving in the UK I can compare with the french ones and those are not playing in the same league.
overcast 9y ago
My hope is that a trend towards server side, text only sites becomes a thing. You can make things beautiful with typography, and layout, without superfluous pictures and designs.
lambdadmitry 9y ago
Moreover they run a/b tests there! https://docs.publishing.service.gov.uk/manual/ab-testing.html https://docs.publishing.service.gov.uk/manual/ab-testing.htm...
flooq 9y ago
Not just a site too. Almost every significant government service is being migrated to that domain, linked from that site and designed to the same standards.

bramjans 9y ago

Nice! The last time I had that fast feeling was with https://changelog.com/ https://changelog.com/, written in Phoenix (Elixir).

throwaway_80bf3 9y ago

lobste.rs is usually pretty fast but they have a silly and annoying April fools thing going on right now. I once did a dive into their CSS to see how they were doing collapsible tree style comments without any JS whatsoever. https://lobste.rs https://lobste.rs