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I just want to understand how people believed all these services worked previously for example, did you know that when you purchase an ebook using kindle soft

I just want to understand how people believed all these services worked previously for example, did you know that when you purchase an ebook using kindle software amazon knows exactly what page you've read to and how long you've stayed on each page. They also know exactly what books you have purchased. Or Did you know that whenever you use a smart tv app that every time you "hover" over a tv show an event is logged that you hovered over it? Same with every click and every time you rent a movie. This all seems pretty scary but these services could not function without this information.

joering2 9y ago
I already paid for my TV and it wasnt cheap. It doesnt NEED to spy on me to make extra buck, but sure it can so it DOES.
majewsky 9y ago
> these services could not function without this information Why does Kindle NEED to know how long I've stayed on each page? Why does a smart TV NEED to store hover events in a persistent DB?
- friedman23 9y ago
  >Why does Kindle NEED to know how long I've stayed on each page? It doesn't, but every page turn event has a time stamp. Using that info it's pretty easy to know how long someone has been on a page. >Why does a smart TV NEED to store hover events in a persistent DB? When the company is doing AB testing to decide on the optimal page layout this information is important.
DavideNL 9y ago
> did you know that when you purchase an ebook using kindle software amazon knows exactly what page you've read to and how long you've stayed on each page. They also know exactly what books you have purchased. Yea :'( That's why i always purchase ebooks with my Laptop, then use Calibre + DeDrm plugin to send the ebook to my Kindle through usb. Also, my kindle is ALWAYS in airplain mode and has never been connected to any wifi. It's so sad we are forced to do these things, and most people probably don't even realise they are being spied on and have their info/profile sold... By the way, i hope my Pi-hole blocks all the smarttv trackers... but i'm not sure.
r3bl 9y ago
I kind of get where you are going with it, but yes, I'm aware of how things work when buying a product. I don't consider my Kindle Paperwhite as an always-on tracking-my-reading device, I consider it as an e-ink screen that I can transfer my books to via USB. I still buy books from Amazon, but that's because I know how to de-DRM them, which is something I don't know how to do with books from... for example, Microsoft Store, or Google Play Books. I don't own a smart TV because I don't need a TV at all, I need a screen to plug an HDMI cable into. I don't own Alexa / Google Home because fuck that. I've refused to own a smartphone until August 2016.

joering2 9y ago

I already paid for my TV and it wasnt cheap. It doesnt NEED to spy on me to make extra buck, but sure it can so it DOES.

majewsky 9y ago

> these services could not function without this information Why does Kindle NEED to know how long I've stayed on each page? Why does a smart TV NEED to store hover events in a persistent DB?

friedman23 9y ago
>Why does Kindle NEED to know how long I've stayed on each page? It doesn't, but every page turn event has a time stamp. Using that info it's pretty easy to know how long someone has been on a page. >Why does a smart TV NEED to store hover events in a persistent DB? When the company is doing AB testing to decide on the optimal page layout this information is important.

DavideNL 9y ago

> did you know that when you purchase an ebook using kindle software amazon knows exactly what page you've read to and how long you've stayed on each page. They also know exactly what books you have purchased. Yea :'( That's why i always purchase ebooks with my Laptop, then use Calibre + DeDrm plugin to send the ebook to my Kindle through usb. Also, my kindle is ALWAYS in airplain mode and has never been connected to any wifi. It's so sad we are forced to do these things, and most people probably don't even realise they are being spied on and have their info/profile sold... By the way, i hope my Pi-hole blocks all the smarttv trackers... but i'm not sure.

r3bl 9y ago

I kind of get where you are going with it, but yes, I'm aware of how things work when buying a product. I don't consider my Kindle Paperwhite as an always-on tracking-my-reading device, I consider it as an e-ink screen that I can transfer my books to via USB. I still buy books from Amazon, but that's because I know how to de-DRM them, which is something I don't know how to do with books from... for example, Microsoft Store, or Google Play Books. I don't own a smart TV because I don't need a TV at all, I need a screen to plug an HDMI cable into. I don't own Alexa / Google Home because fuck that. I've refused to own a smartphone until August 2016.