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I would much rather you be an engineer than a teacher. Why on earth would we want to incentivize our creators and innovators to become teachers?

by enjo 16y ago

comatose_kid 16y ago
Because they could help shape the next generation of creators and innovators?
jbooth 16y ago
Well, 2 comments and we're 1 for 2 so I guess my 50% figure was right on. I'll respond with a couple more questions: Do you place a value on increasing future "creation and innovation" by doing a good job of educating kids? If they learn exclusively from mediocre, by-the-book personalities, do you think that helps or hurts the "creation and innovation" parts of their brains?
- timwiseman 16y ago
  Your question seems to be implicitly assuming that most great teachers could also have been great engineers. At the risk of stereotyping, I do not think that is true. A great teacher must be dynamic, engaging, intelligent, able to connect with children so that they can teach creation and innovation. But an engineer must be intelligent, methodical, and able to master vast amounts of technical knowledge. I suspect most people who make great engineers would not make great teachers, and vice versa. There will be some that could easily be great at either though. Those, I think would better serve society by going into engineering for a few reasons. One is that the number capable of being a truly great engineer is smaller than the number capable of being a truly great teacher. Both are significant for society, but one is more rare than the other. Also, it seems that the point of education is to be able to produce great makers such as engineers who do the work that holds society together. If we always direct our best minds to enhancing the best minds of the future, we will have highly educated children but little or no actual progress for those children to enjoy.
gehant 16y ago
One great engineer can impact the world with one lifetime, while one great teacher can impact the world with (class size x years taught) lifetimes.
- barry-cotter 16y ago
  One great engineers contributions last forever, assuming they become part of a product that is stable enough to be reverse engineered (so software and physical both count) and is proportionate to Contribution*product. One great teachers contribution rots due to reversion to the mean. The average teacher almost certainly has a greater marginal effect than the engineer. The 90th percentile engineer kicks the teachers ass.

I would much rather you be an engineer than a teacher. Why on earth would we want to incentivize our creators and innovators to become teachers?

by enjo 16y ago

I would much rather you be an engineer than a teacher. Why on earth would we want to incentivize our creators and innovators to become teachers?

comatose_kid 16y ago

Because they could help shape the next generation of creators and innovators?

jbooth 16y ago

Well, 2 comments and we're 1 for 2 so I guess my 50% figure was right on. I'll respond with a couple more questions: Do you place a value on increasing future "creation and innovation" by doing a good job of educating kids? If they learn exclusively from mediocre, by-the-book personalities, do you think that helps or hurts the "creation and innovation" parts of their brains?

timwiseman 16y ago
Your question seems to be implicitly assuming that most great teachers could also have been great engineers. At the risk of stereotyping, I do not think that is true. A great teacher must be dynamic, engaging, intelligent, able to connect with children so that they can teach creation and innovation. But an engineer must be intelligent, methodical, and able to master vast amounts of technical knowledge. I suspect most people who make great engineers would not make great teachers, and vice versa. There will be some that could easily be great at either though. Those, I think would better serve society by going into engineering for a few reasons. One is that the number capable of being a truly great engineer is smaller than the number capable of being a truly great teacher. Both are significant for society, but one is more rare than the other. Also, it seems that the point of education is to be able to produce great makers such as engineers who do the work that holds society together. If we always direct our best minds to enhancing the best minds of the future, we will have highly educated children but little or no actual progress for those children to enjoy.

gehant 16y ago

One great engineer can impact the world with one lifetime, while one great teacher can impact the world with (class size x years taught) lifetimes.

barry-cotter 16y ago
One great engineers contributions last forever, assuming they become part of a product that is stable enough to be reverse engineered (so software and physical both count) and is proportionate to Contribution*product. One great teachers contribution rots due to reversion to the mean. The average teacher almost certainly has a greater marginal effect than the engineer. The 90th percentile engineer kicks the teachers ass.