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You'll have to have a first in order to be able to skip the masters, and since entry to funded programs is competitive, you have to be an exceptional candidate
by urschrei 9y ago
You'll have to have a first in order to be able to skip the masters, and since entry to funded programs is competitive, you have to be an exceptional candidate for this to actually happen – it's quite rare.
Then there's the program itself. DTCs (doctoral training centres) now mostly run 3 + 1 programmes, where your first year is a master's, involving taught classes and a research project. This is to get everyone up to speed on how to actually do independent research, and to build core skills.
While it's true that teaching doesn't always form a mandatory part of a doctoral degree, working as a teaching assistant for at least one semester is often mandatory.
In short, you've mischaracterised doctoral education in England and Wales (Scotland may be different) to quite an extraordinary degree. I see no reason to comment upon the "more than our top share" claim, for reasons which are, I hope, obvious.
- chrisseaton 9y ago> You'll have to have a first in order to be able to skip the masters Well I'm not sure that many people without a first would seriously consider doing a PhD, so this isn't relevant in most cases. > DTCs (doctoral training centres) now mostly run 3 + 1 programmes Right, which is a big disadvantage of them. DTCs are just one way to do a PhD and they're not the traditional approach in the UK. > In short, you've mischaracterised doctoral education in England and Wales I don't agree! This matches from I see of students going into and coming out of the system today.