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They are NOT saying Google is lying and collecting the data. They are saying the business model of Google inherently provides such incentive. Cloudflare is som
by heisenbit 9y ago
They are NOT saying Google is lying and collecting the data. They are saying the business model of Google inherently provides such incentive.
Cloudflare is somewhat right: Means, Motive and Opportunity - but for a conviction you have to prove someone acted on the Opportunity. The Motive of Google is tampered with severe risk for loosing trust.
Cloudflare can make an argument they are fundamentally better positioned and that is all they do. As with all US based operations the NSA may cook up some convincing counterarguments and we may never know.
- Twisol 9y agoIt's clear what you meant, but for whatever it's worth, I think the word you wanted was "tempered", not "tampered".
- wtmt 9y agoFor what it’s worth, you missed to point out “loosing” vs. “losing” in that comment (where it talks about “loosing trust”). :)
- Twisol 9y agoThat looked more like a garden-variety typo than a bona fide eggcorn, so I gave it a pass ;) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggcorn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggcorn
- bogomipz 9y ago>"They are NOT saying Google is lying and collecting the data." The OP did not say that cloudflare is "saying" that. The OP very clearly said they are "insinuating" it. And yes under the heading "DNS's Privacy Problem" the post mentions: "With all the concern over the data that companies like Facebook and Google are collecting on you,..." I think that juxtaposition of this statement under a bolded heading of "DNS's Privacy Problem" is very much insinuating that.
- ocdtrekkie 9y agoBear in mind, Google's changed its mind before and can again at any time. For instance, when they bought DoubleClick they promised not to connect it with the Google account data they had. Then they changed that policy later.
- bogomipz 9y agoThat does not change the the fact that Cloudflare is insinuating something something about Google's DNS.
- ocdtrekkie 9y agoIs the suggestion that a company whose main business is targeting ads based on collecting data about you might be collecting data about you an unfair insinuation?
- bogomipz 9y agoPlease follow the thread - the question of whether an insinuation if "fair" is not what's being discussed. What's being discussed is whether or not Cloudflare said or insinuated that there were privacy concerns with using 8.8.8.8.