> But even if both of your points were true, the point is to look at what is happening in other languages and frameworks. Every day you spend learning about PHP

> But even if both of your points were true, the point is to look at what is happening in other languages and frameworks. Every day you spend learning about PHP is a day that you are not learning about the languages that are really moving the industry forward to interesting new places. Which of those languages give you NaCl out of the box?