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How Do You Make or Maintain Friends? Put in the Time

154 points by owens99 9y ago

biastoact 9y ago
Insured by the book Brunch is Hell I’ve started a soup in game night for friends and should-be-friends forvthis very reason: create a platform where we can put in the time to build closer friendships.
- jasikpark 9y ago
  Now i wish i hadn’t used my audible credit for the month. the sample is great
- truebosko 9y ago
  What's a soup in game night? You offer soup to your buds during games?
personlurking 9y ago
At times, however, underdeveloped social connections are also important. The secret to great opportunities? The person you haven't met yet (TED, 14m) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFgtI7nt6Q4&t=2s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFgtI7nt6Q4&t=2s "We often find ourselves stuck in narrow social circles with similar people. What habits confine us, and how can we break them? Organizational psychologist Tanya Menon considers how we can be more intentional about expanding our social universes -- and how it can lead to new ideas and opportunities."
- chiefalchemist 9y ago
  I'm typically not a TED fan but that was 15 minutes well spent. Great share. Merci ;)
uhnuhnuhn 9y ago
After reading the actual underlying study the article headline seems bogus. The study simply found an association between the amount/quality of time spent with a person and closeness of the friendship. There's nothing in the study design that allows us to distinguish whether spending time together creates friendships or if spending time together is only an indicator of a friendship. Could simply mean that feeling close to someone leads people to spend more time together.
- WalterSear 9y ago
  It's also of college students.
creep 9y ago
For some reason I've always looked at friendship relationships as primarily creative. I don't like to be with people unless there is chemistry for a good conversation that changes our perspectives or adds dimension, or if we are working on something. I don't like "hanging out" because that usually involves a lot of cleverness with humor (and my humor isn't clever-- what I find funny is usually when someone has made some ironic error in their thinking or behavior, and there aren't a lot of ways to communicate this socially without knowing how to set up a good story-- which I don't know how to do). Consequently, there are a handful of people I consider "good friends" but I don't see these people very often because our relationship is implicitly understood-- I'm here if you want advice, you're there if I want advice, and they know I'll flake if I get invited to something that seems to require anything more relaxed. I don't know why this is the case, but I can say that the friends I do have, despite barely seeing them in person, I cherish very much. The kind of people who are okay with that bond are usually beyond interesting, and I enjoy being around as they tell me about the exciting things they feel and think and experience. They all have such a way with putting their experiences and all the nuances into words that I can connect with. I don't think you can ever fully understand someone, but I understand my friends in the exact places that they understand me. Maybe that is what all friendships do, but I'm not sure. Just thought I'd share.
- hkmurakami 9y ago
  That's certainly one category of friendships. You just have to be aware of what category of friends reach person is, and try to engage in ways that are consistent with the frame of mind. There are friends I'm intellectually inspired by, like you say, friends that I do activity X with, and friends who I've had my entire life with whom I can completely let my guard down with. The third category is honestly the most special one, since It's really really hard to recreate it in adulthood.
  - r00fus 9y ago
    I can understand childhood friendship that's preserved in adulthood but honestly as someone who moved around a lot as a kid I don't have many of those - when I tried to reconnect with my childhood friends the gap was too wide.
truculation 9y ago
I think what bonds people is shared adversity. Thus, the longer you've known someone the greater the chance that you've come through some tough experiences together (e.g. school, war) and therefore that you trust one another. Perhaps this is how families work. Errors in how to relate cause suffering which paradoxically creates a closer family bond. There are far more occasions to suffer where people share the same space.
- pm90 9y ago
  I don't think you have to both share the adversity as much as having empathy, listening and really caring (both in your words and in actions) to have a solid friendship. Being comfortable enough to share these things with someone is a huge deal, and sharing what you're going through with others seems to feel good for some reason.
- alexashka 9y ago
  I've heard an analogy that there are three types of relating: - Therapy - Yoga - Enlightenment This is a very unusual point of view so let me explain: what you've described is therapy relating. It's when you need consolation, a hug, someone to listen to, etc. Yoga is doing things together to experience something new or get something done. This is activity-based friendship, travel, telling stories, etc. Enlightenment is woo-woo type of relating where you relate to people the same way you relate to everything else in life - without purpose, you just do. These are of course very broad strokes.
  - b0rsuk 9y ago
    I would love to learn where I can read more about this point of view.
    - alexashka 9y ago
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=647FIQMR6jg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=647FIQMR6jg This is where I heard it. I'd make the suggestion to open your mind very wide however, it is very easy to dismiss what he says because of the way he says it.
OrganicMSG 9y ago
In the words of Samuel Johnson; > "If a man does not make new acquaintance as he advances through life, he will soon find himself left alone. A man, Sir, should keep his friendship in constant repair."
antisthenes 9y ago
Fitting time for this article to be posted, as I'm mourning the loss of a great person, and my best friend. What makes it twice as difficult is knowing that we've both put in so much work and effort in the friendship and it's extremely unlikely that anything like that will happen again in my lifetime (don't have nearly enough time as we did back in high school and college). Having someone on your intellectual level and at the same life progression as you to bounce ideas off of is incredibly valuable and anchoring. If you have someone like this - please cherish them as best you can and understand how much they are making you better.
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- randomsearch 9y ago
  Sorry to hear about your loss. Just to add that, although you’re right about time at college, it is possible to make very close friends afterwards. Make sure you remain open minded; I hope you make other lasting and meaningful relationships.
bob_theslob646 9y ago
I find the title, ironic, considering after one turns 21-22,(finishes university) suddenly everyone's lives are planned and time is scarce. Totally different if you live in a major city with great transportation, much easier/more likely to see/bump into friends.

154 points by owens99 9y ago

Insured by the book Brunch is Hell I’ve started a soup in game night for friends and should-be-friends forvthis very reason: create a platform where we can put in the time to build closer friendships.

jasikpark 9y ago
Now i wish i hadn’t used my audible credit for the month. the sample is great
truebosko 9y ago
What's a soup in game night? You offer soup to your buds during games?

personlurking 9y ago

At times, however, underdeveloped social connections are also important. The secret to great opportunities? The person you haven't met yet (TED, 14m) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFgtI7nt6Q4&t=2s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFgtI7nt6Q4&t=2s "We often find ourselves stuck in narrow social circles with similar people. What habits confine us, and how can we break them? Organizational psychologist Tanya Menon considers how we can be more intentional about expanding our social universes -- and how it can lead to new ideas and opportunities."

chiefalchemist 9y ago
I'm typically not a TED fan but that was 15 minutes well spent. Great share. Merci ;)

uhnuhnuhn 9y ago

After reading the actual underlying study the article headline seems bogus. The study simply found an association between the amount/quality of time spent with a person and closeness of the friendship. There's nothing in the study design that allows us to distinguish whether spending time together creates friendships or if spending time together is only an indicator of a friendship. Could simply mean that feeling close to someone leads people to spend more time together.

WalterSear 9y ago
It's also of college students.

creep 9y ago

For some reason I've always looked at friendship relationships as primarily creative. I don't like to be with people unless there is chemistry for a good conversation that changes our perspectives or adds dimension, or if we are working on something. I don't like "hanging out" because that usually involves a lot of cleverness with humor (and my humor isn't clever-- what I find funny is usually when someone has made some ironic error in their thinking or behavior, and there aren't a lot of ways to communicate this socially without knowing how to set up a good story-- which I don't know how to do). Consequently, there are a handful of people I consider "good friends" but I don't see these people very often because our relationship is implicitly understood-- I'm here if you want advice, you're there if I want advice, and they know I'll flake if I get invited to something that seems to require anything more relaxed. I don't know why this is the case, but I can say that the friends I do have, despite barely seeing them in person, I cherish very much. The kind of people who are okay with that bond are usually beyond interesting, and I enjoy being around as they tell me about the exciting things they feel and think and experience. They all have such a way with putting their experiences and all the nuances into words that I can connect with. I don't think you can ever fully understand someone, but I understand my friends in the exact places that they understand me. Maybe that is what all friendships do, but I'm not sure. Just thought I'd share.

hkmurakami 9y ago
That's certainly one category of friendships. You just have to be aware of what category of friends reach person is, and try to engage in ways that are consistent with the frame of mind. There are friends I'm intellectually inspired by, like you say, friends that I do activity X with, and friends who I've had my entire life with whom I can completely let my guard down with. The third category is honestly the most special one, since It's really really hard to recreate it in adulthood.
- r00fus 9y ago
  I can understand childhood friendship that's preserved in adulthood but honestly as someone who moved around a lot as a kid I don't have many of those - when I tried to reconnect with my childhood friends the gap was too wide.

truculation 9y ago

I think what bonds people is shared adversity. Thus, the longer you've known someone the greater the chance that you've come through some tough experiences together (e.g. school, war) and therefore that you trust one another. Perhaps this is how families work. Errors in how to relate cause suffering which paradoxically creates a closer family bond. There are far more occasions to suffer where people share the same space.

pm90 9y ago
I don't think you have to both share the adversity as much as having empathy, listening and really caring (both in your words and in actions) to have a solid friendship. Being comfortable enough to share these things with someone is a huge deal, and sharing what you're going through with others seems to feel good for some reason.
alexashka 9y ago
I've heard an analogy that there are three types of relating: - Therapy - Yoga - Enlightenment This is a very unusual point of view so let me explain: what you've described is therapy relating. It's when you need consolation, a hug, someone to listen to, etc. Yoga is doing things together to experience something new or get something done. This is activity-based friendship, travel, telling stories, etc. Enlightenment is woo-woo type of relating where you relate to people the same way you relate to everything else in life - without purpose, you just do. These are of course very broad strokes.
- b0rsuk 9y ago
  I would love to learn where I can read more about this point of view.
  - alexashka 9y ago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=647FIQMR6jg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=647FIQMR6jg This is where I heard it. I'd make the suggestion to open your mind very wide however, it is very easy to dismiss what he says because of the way he says it.

OrganicMSG 9y ago

In the words of Samuel Johnson; > "If a man does not make new acquaintance as he advances through life, he will soon find himself left alone. A man, Sir, should keep his friendship in constant repair."

antisthenes 9y ago

Fitting time for this article to be posted, as I'm mourning the loss of a great person, and my best friend. What makes it twice as difficult is knowing that we've both put in so much work and effort in the friendship and it's extremely unlikely that anything like that will happen again in my lifetime (don't have nearly enough time as we did back in high school and college). Having someone on your intellectual level and at the same life progression as you to bounce ideas off of is incredibly valuable and anchoring. If you have someone like this - please cherish them as best you can and understand how much they are making you better.

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randomsearch 9y ago
Sorry to hear about your loss. Just to add that, although you’re right about time at college, it is possible to make very close friends afterwards. Make sure you remain open minded; I hope you make other lasting and meaningful relationships.

bob_theslob646 9y ago

I find the title, ironic, considering after one turns 21-22,(finishes university) suddenly everyone's lives are planned and time is scarce. Totally different if you live in a major city with great transportation, much easier/more likely to see/bump into friends.