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I think it is long past the date when the EU should have started to apply reciprocally onerous standards to the US citizens traveling to Europe. Unless the US t

by janoc 9y ago

I think it is long past the date when the EU should have started to apply reciprocally onerous standards to the US citizens traveling to Europe. Unless the US travelers start raising fuss at home about their treatment abroad, this BS will continue. I am pretty sure that this nonsense would change very fast the moment CEOs of big US companies get a proper interrogation on arrival at Heathrow or Frankfurt and/or get denied entry for arbitrary and undisclosed reasons (as is common in the US). (before someone jumps on me that the article is about visas and not ESTA applying to EU countries - well, the ESTA questionnaire is pretty much identical to the visa one, including the "have you been a member of a terrorist organization?" questions. Just you normally don't need to go to an embassy interview and it can be handled online as long as you don't get flagged for some reason).

egourlao 9y ago
It's happening soon, with the ETIAS: https://etias.com/ https://etias.com/
esbranson 9y ago
The EU did consider reciprocally onerous standards. The European Commission decided against revoking visa-free travel privileges to Americans in March 2017. European Parliament resolution: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=TA&language=EN&reference=P8-TA-2017-0060 http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=TA&langua... European Commission response: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/AUTO/?uri=CELEX:52017DC0227 http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/AUTO/?uri=CELEX:52... European Commission press release: http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-17-1148_en.htm http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-17-1148_en.htm Social media reporting only applies to visa applications. Most EU states have visa-free travel privileges to the US, so this is not applicable to them. However, the US would require social media disclosure for Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Poland and Romania nationals under this proposal. The US does not need social media information from most EU citizens. We get this from their interior ministries, who do a much better job. (Nationals' own domestic spy agencies are the likely source of these "arbitrary" reasons for detention and denial of admittance.)

by janoc 9y ago

egourlao 9y ago

It's happening soon, with the ETIAS: https://etias.com/ https://etias.com/

esbranson 9y ago

The EU did consider reciprocally onerous standards. The European Commission decided against revoking visa-free travel privileges to Americans in March 2017. European Parliament resolution: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=TA&language=EN&reference=P8-TA-2017-0060 http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=TA&langua... European Commission response: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/AUTO/?uri=CELEX:52017DC0227 http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/AUTO/?uri=CELEX:52... European Commission press release: http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-17-1148_en.htm http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-17-1148_en.htm Social media reporting only applies to visa applications. Most EU states have visa-free travel privileges to the US, so this is not applicable to them. However, the US would require social media disclosure for Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Poland and Romania nationals under this proposal. The US does not need social media information from most EU citizens. We get this from their interior ministries, who do a much better job. (Nationals' own domestic spy agencies are the likely source of these "arbitrary" reasons for detention and denial of admittance.)