To some extent I agree. Many of the problems that are going to become increasingly serious over the next few decades are caused or amplified by previous solutio

To some extent I agree. Many of the problems that are going to become increasingly serious over the next few decades are caused or amplified by previous solutions to problems. Maybe in some cases the new problems are far worse than the original problems. > course, our population has grown much too large for everyone to go into the forests, so we've kind of screwed ourselves already by burning that bridge Yeah, that's the ugly part of it. I think we've roughly got the choice of consciously trying to damp population and affluence (the resource & pollution cost per unit of population) , or maintaining the status quo of growth and accelerating into a pretty hard population crash. My mental model for continued climate change, as a reasonably predictable consequence of continued human "business as usual" is +4 degrees C or higher global warming with billions of people dying.