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> In the moments before the collision, which occurred at 9:27 a.m. on Friday, March 23rd, Autopilot was engaged with the adaptive cruise control follow-distance

by hcnews 9y ago

> In the moments before the collision, which occurred at 9:27 a.m. on Friday, March 23rd, Autopilot was engaged with the adaptive cruise control follow-distance set to minimum. Would've loved to know the exact moments we are talking about here. Is it 5 seconds or 5 minutes? > The driver had received several visual and one audible hands-on warning earlier in the drive and the driver’s hands were not detected on the wheel for six seconds prior to the collision. What does this mean? Did Tesla want to give over control to driver? Or just normal no hands? > The driver had about five seconds and 150 meters of unobstructed view of the concrete divider with the crushed crash attenuator, but the vehicle logs show that no action was taken. Again its hard to know if Tesla wanted to give up control or not. I hope they aren't just saying that because the driver's hands were off the steering wheel, the crash occurred and is his fault for not obeying the agreement.

jijojv 9y ago
> I hope they aren't just saying that because the driver's hands were off the steering wheel, the crash occurred and is his fault for not obeying the agreement. That's exactly Tesla's official stance - if you crash you're SOL and at fault, Autopilot or Auto Emergency Braking be damned. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/31/apples-steve-wozniak-doesnt-believe-anything-elon-musk-or-tesla-say.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/31/apples-steve-wozniak-doesnt-... "Man you have got to be ready — it makes mistakes, it loses track of the lane lines. You have to be on your toes all the time," says Wozniak. "All Tesla did is say, 'It is beta so we are not responsible. It doesn't necessarily work, so you have to be in control.' "Well you that is kinda a cheap way out of it."
sp332 9y ago
If you ignore it long enough, the autopilot will disengage entirely. The car will drive in a straight line and coast to a stop.
- Cshelton 9y ago
  As a Tesla owner, this is not accurate wording. The car will very quickly decelerate until about 5 mph if you have the crawl feature on. I need to make a post, as a long time Tesla owner/very frequent autopilot user, because I think I know exactly what happened. Unfortunately I need to go to bed, already up later that I should be for tomorrow. A lot of information and comments I’ve seen about how it works and how autopilot is dangerous etc, are quite wrong. I think it’d be important for people to understand how it works from people who use it and get their opinions first before making statements about AP in general. For the record, I love using AP and will continue to do so. But it is no silver bullet, and 99.5% of Tesla owners know this and how to correctly use it.
- userbinator 9y ago
  The car will drive in a straight line and coast to a stop. In this case, it would be more like "drive in a straight line and... collide to a stop." Perhaps braking to a stop at a reasonable rate would be the right thing to do, given that it surely should've detected it was going to hit something?
  - sp332 9y ago
    But according to Tesla, the autopilot was engaged. The car's behavior when disengaged is not the question here.

by hcnews 9y ago

jijojv 9y ago

> I hope they aren't just saying that because the driver's hands were off the steering wheel, the crash occurred and is his fault for not obeying the agreement. That's exactly Tesla's official stance - if you crash you're SOL and at fault, Autopilot or Auto Emergency Braking be damned. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/31/apples-steve-wozniak-doesnt-believe-anything-elon-musk-or-tesla-say.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/31/apples-steve-wozniak-doesnt-... "Man you have got to be ready — it makes mistakes, it loses track of the lane lines. You have to be on your toes all the time," says Wozniak. "All Tesla did is say, 'It is beta so we are not responsible. It doesn't necessarily work, so you have to be in control.' "Well you that is kinda a cheap way out of it."

sp332 9y ago

If you ignore it long enough, the autopilot will disengage entirely. The car will drive in a straight line and coast to a stop.

Cshelton 9y ago
As a Tesla owner, this is not accurate wording. The car will very quickly decelerate until about 5 mph if you have the crawl feature on. I need to make a post, as a long time Tesla owner/very frequent autopilot user, because I think I know exactly what happened. Unfortunately I need to go to bed, already up later that I should be for tomorrow. A lot of information and comments I’ve seen about how it works and how autopilot is dangerous etc, are quite wrong. I think it’d be important for people to understand how it works from people who use it and get their opinions first before making statements about AP in general. For the record, I love using AP and will continue to do so. But it is no silver bullet, and 99.5% of Tesla owners know this and how to correctly use it.
userbinator 9y ago
The car will drive in a straight line and coast to a stop. In this case, it would be more like "drive in a straight line and... collide to a stop." Perhaps braking to a stop at a reasonable rate would be the right thing to do, given that it surely should've detected it was going to hit something?
- sp332 9y ago
  But according to Tesla, the autopilot was engaged. The car's behavior when disengaged is not the question here.