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If you sleep through European history, you can still learn American history. If you sleep through biology, you can still learn chemistry. If you sleep through

If you sleep through European history, you can still learn American history. If you sleep through biology, you can still learn chemistry. If you sleep through algebra, you can't do calculus, period.

g10r 9y ago
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oculusthrift 9y ago
so true. STEM master race. that's why anyone can just sit in a history or physics graduate level course and be fine because they don't build on each other. Organic chemistry would never depend on bio or chem 1. however, if you sleep through algebra 1, its not used at all in geometry so its fine. And neither are used in discrete math. such a bubble.. what if i told you most students don't learn anything past algebra anyway?
- barry-cotter 9y ago
  Physics is applied Maths, of course they build on each other. History and historical knowledge builds on other things, geography most obviously, but primarily on itself. It’s easier to learn and remember history if you already know some. But having studied history it’s quite obvious that at an undergraduate level it builds on itself much, much less than something like Math or Physics. The degree to which upper level courses depend on lower level courses is minimal. Different fields differ in how much they are built on mental models and how much they’re just a grab bag of connected facts you have to know and learn. Biology has more disconnected you just need to know it stuff than Chemistry.
- rcthompson 9y ago
  I think you're reading a lot more into my comment than what's there. I'm not claiming that math classes have a completely linear dependency chain, nor am I saying that no other subjects have classes with meaningful dependencies, and I'm especially not claiming anything about graduate level course work in any subject.
- scythe 9y ago
  Organic chemistry is not an elementary school course. Science taught in grade school usually has few inter-dependencies because it aims to cover a very broad range of topics at a very basic level. Ditto history.
shawnz 9y ago
> If you sleep through algebra, you can't do calculus, period. Despite my best efforts in high school

If you sleep through European history, you can still learn American history. If you sleep through biology, you can still learn chemistry. If you sleep through algebra, you can't do calculus, period.

g10r 9y ago

100%

oculusthrift 9y ago

so true. STEM master race. that's why anyone can just sit in a history or physics graduate level course and be fine because they don't build on each other. Organic chemistry would never depend on bio or chem 1. however, if you sleep through algebra 1, its not used at all in geometry so its fine. And neither are used in discrete math. such a bubble.. what if i told you most students don't learn anything past algebra anyway?

barry-cotter 9y ago
Physics is applied Maths, of course they build on each other. History and historical knowledge builds on other things, geography most obviously, but primarily on itself. It’s easier to learn and remember history if you already know some. But having studied history it’s quite obvious that at an undergraduate level it builds on itself much, much less than something like Math or Physics. The degree to which upper level courses depend on lower level courses is minimal. Different fields differ in how much they are built on mental models and how much they’re just a grab bag of connected facts you have to know and learn. Biology has more disconnected you just need to know it stuff than Chemistry.
rcthompson 9y ago
I think you're reading a lot more into my comment than what's there. I'm not claiming that math classes have a completely linear dependency chain, nor am I saying that no other subjects have classes with meaningful dependencies, and I'm especially not claiming anything about graduate level course work in any subject.
scythe 9y ago
Organic chemistry is not an elementary school course. Science taught in grade school usually has few inter-dependencies because it aims to cover a very broad range of topics at a very basic level. Ditto history.

shawnz 9y ago

> If you sleep through algebra, you can't do calculus, period. Despite my best efforts in high school