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Because years ago NVIDIA screwed up the thermal solution in their laptop chips so they’d get so hot they’d unsolder themselves inside MacBook Pros, and then gav

Because years ago NVIDIA screwed up the thermal solution in their laptop chips so they’d get so hot they’d unsolder themselves inside MacBook Pros, and then gave someone important at Apple the middle finger instead of helping to deal with the issue. Ever since then Apple does not use NVIDIA GPUs.

mapmap 9y ago
I would love to hear more details about this.
- throwaway84742 9y ago
  This was pretty well publicized circa 2008 when the events took place.
  - bhj 9y ago
    2012 and 2013 15" Macbook Pros used NVidia. I think Apple likes to alternate every generation or two, if only to keep their options open.
    - throwaway84742 9y ago
      Or maybe 2012. It’s been a while.
    - Fnoord 9y ago
      2010 MBP does, for sure. I need to disable that one, and use the Intel GPU instead. Using the Nvidia GPU causes random reboots.
- giobox 9y ago
  The fiasco was widely called "Bad Bumps" due to the issue being related to the solder used for the bumps on the underside of their chips. It was a huge deal affecting major computer vendors like Apple, Dell, HP etc at the time, with failure rates on laptops with these chips being ridiculously high. I've also long wondered if this played a part in whatever reason Apple have for avoiding Nvidia GPUs for so long. > https://semiaccurate.com/2010/07/11/why-nvidias-chips-are-defective/ https://semiaccurate.com/2010/07/11/why-nvidias-chips-are-de... > http://www.tomshardware.com/news/NVIDIA-GPU-Chipset-Graphics,6512.html http://www.tomshardware.com/news/NVIDIA-GPU-Chipset-Graphics... Not usually a huge fan of theinquirer's tabloid style, but they did a pretty good job reporting on the issue back then. > https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1047022/apple-notebooks-defective-nvidia-chips https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1047022/apple-note...
pvg 9y ago
Apple has used Nvidia gpus many times since then. Whatever the reasons for Apple's vendor-hopping for GPUs, this isn't it.
Tsiklon 9y ago
Apple have used nVidia stuff a few times since the 8000 series solder screw ups. 2010, 2012, 2013 + 2014 MacBook Pro’s to name a few instances

mapmap 9y ago

I would love to hear more details about this.

throwaway84742 9y ago
This was pretty well publicized circa 2008 when the events took place.
- bhj 9y ago
  2012 and 2013 15" Macbook Pros used NVidia. I think Apple likes to alternate every generation or two, if only to keep their options open.
  - throwaway84742 9y ago
    Or maybe 2012. It’s been a while.
  - Fnoord 9y ago
    2010 MBP does, for sure. I need to disable that one, and use the Intel GPU instead. Using the Nvidia GPU causes random reboots.
giobox 9y ago
The fiasco was widely called "Bad Bumps" due to the issue being related to the solder used for the bumps on the underside of their chips. It was a huge deal affecting major computer vendors like Apple, Dell, HP etc at the time, with failure rates on laptops with these chips being ridiculously high. I've also long wondered if this played a part in whatever reason Apple have for avoiding Nvidia GPUs for so long. > https://semiaccurate.com/2010/07/11/why-nvidias-chips-are-defective/ https://semiaccurate.com/2010/07/11/why-nvidias-chips-are-de... > http://www.tomshardware.com/news/NVIDIA-GPU-Chipset-Graphics,6512.html http://www.tomshardware.com/news/NVIDIA-GPU-Chipset-Graphics... Not usually a huge fan of theinquirer's tabloid style, but they did a pretty good job reporting on the issue back then. > https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1047022/apple-notebooks-defective-nvidia-chips https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1047022/apple-note...

pvg 9y ago

Apple has used Nvidia gpus many times since then. Whatever the reasons for Apple's vendor-hopping for GPUs, this isn't it.

Tsiklon 9y ago

Apple have used nVidia stuff a few times since the 8000 series solder screw ups. 2010, 2012, 2013 + 2014 MacBook Pro’s to name a few instances