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Which is a shame. This is the only reason my wife still uses old 11" Mac Air. She has an Apple Thunderbolt screen which she doesn't want to replace and is unusa

Which is a shame. This is the only reason my wife still uses old 11" Mac Air. She has an Apple Thunderbolt screen which she doesn't want to replace and is unusable on the Macbook. Pros are just too big for her, so she keeps on using the old Air.

lostlogin 9y ago
The current MacBook similar size bigger screen, but wow is the dongle life a horror.
- nkkollaw 9y ago
  It's not only a horror, it's idiotic and completely avoidable. Some people say it's an upgrade, but I don't see why they couldn't upgrade and keep the other ports around, since people need those daily. For sure I've used my 89-euro dongle a lot more than I've used the USB-C port (which is never), until I got sane again after 8 years of getting overcharged by Apple and switched to Microsoft hardware running Xfce Linux (which are both wonderful).
  - saagarjha 9y ago
    What dongle is €89!?
    - nkkollaw 9y ago
      The one I bought with the laptops so that I could use my external monitor and plug my cell phone.
      - saagarjha 9y ago
        This one is $69 and has USB C, HDMI, and USB A: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJ1K2AM/A/usb-c-digital-av-multiport-adapter https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJ1K2AM/A/usb-c-digital-a.... Does it not fit your needs?
        Symbiote 9y ago
        Add a typical European VAT and the price is similar.
        saagarjha 9y ago
        €89 is around $110. Is VAT really 60%?
        antnisp 9y ago
        https://www.apple.com/de/shop/product/MJ1K2ZM/A/usb%E2%80%91c-digital-av-multiport-adapter?fnode=8b https://www.apple.com/de/shop/product/MJ1K2ZM/A/usb%E2%80%91... Here it is. Right from the mother-ship.
        Symbiote 9y ago
        I guess I meant that was an equivalent price for electronics. Around 20% is normal. The USD has slipped further than I thought compared to the Euro, and prices are usually a bit higher here. There are various explanations: * Higher staff wages * Government-mandated warranty * Willingness to pay more The same product is €79 in Germany: https://www.apple.com/de/shop/product/MJ1K2ZM/A/usb%E2%80%91c-digital-av-multiport-adapter https://www.apple.com/de/shop/product/MJ1K2ZM/A/usb%E2%80%91... (or ~87€ in Denmark!)
        intopieces 9y ago
        Jeeze, I regularly see these things left in conference rooms at my work. I could make a killing in the German resale market.
        saagarjha 9y ago
        Presumably, reselling these would require you to apply VAT to your products…
        9y ago
    - nkkollaw 9y ago
      This is all you got from my comment..?
      - saagarjha 9y ago
        > Your original point was something along the lines of you being overcharged by Apple because you now had to buy an expensive dongle. I showed that the expensive dongle you were talking about wasn’t actually as expensive as it seemed, which weakens your argument somewhat.
rsynnott 9y ago
The next version of the MacBook will likely support Thunderbolt. Current Intel chipsets require a rather large (and power-hungry) chip for Thunderbolt (MBPs actually have two of them!), but it'll be integrated soon; they'll get it for 'free'.

lostlogin 9y ago

The current MacBook similar size bigger screen, but wow is the dongle life a horror.

nkkollaw 9y ago
It's not only a horror, it's idiotic and completely avoidable. Some people say it's an upgrade, but I don't see why they couldn't upgrade and keep the other ports around, since people need those daily. For sure I've used my 89-euro dongle a lot more than I've used the USB-C port (which is never), until I got sane again after 8 years of getting overcharged by Apple and switched to Microsoft hardware running Xfce Linux (which are both wonderful).
- saagarjha 9y ago
  What dongle is €89!?
  - nkkollaw 9y ago
    The one I bought with the laptops so that I could use my external monitor and plug my cell phone.
    - saagarjha 9y ago
      This one is $69 and has USB C, HDMI, and USB A: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJ1K2AM/A/usb-c-digital-av-multiport-adapter https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJ1K2AM/A/usb-c-digital-a.... Does it not fit your needs?
      - Symbiote 9y ago
        Add a typical European VAT and the price is similar.
        saagarjha 9y ago
        €89 is around $110. Is VAT really 60%?
        antnisp 9y ago
        https://www.apple.com/de/shop/product/MJ1K2ZM/A/usb%E2%80%91c-digital-av-multiport-adapter?fnode=8b https://www.apple.com/de/shop/product/MJ1K2ZM/A/usb%E2%80%91... Here it is. Right from the mother-ship.
        Symbiote 9y ago
        I guess I meant that was an equivalent price for electronics. Around 20% is normal. The USD has slipped further than I thought compared to the Euro, and prices are usually a bit higher here. There are various explanations: * Higher staff wages * Government-mandated warranty * Willingness to pay more The same product is €79 in Germany: https://www.apple.com/de/shop/product/MJ1K2ZM/A/usb%E2%80%91c-digital-av-multiport-adapter https://www.apple.com/de/shop/product/MJ1K2ZM/A/usb%E2%80%91... (or ~87€ in Denmark!)
        intopieces 9y ago
        Jeeze, I regularly see these things left in conference rooms at my work. I could make a killing in the German resale market.
        saagarjha 9y ago
        Presumably, reselling these would require you to apply VAT to your products…
        9y ago
  - nkkollaw 9y ago
    This is all you got from my comment..?
    - saagarjha 9y ago
      > Your original point was something along the lines of you being overcharged by Apple because you now had to buy an expensive dongle. I showed that the expensive dongle you were talking about wasn’t actually as expensive as it seemed, which weakens your argument somewhat.

rsynnott 9y ago

The next version of the MacBook will likely support Thunderbolt. Current Intel chipsets require a rather large (and power-hungry) chip for Thunderbolt (MBPs actually have two of them!), but it'll be integrated soon; they'll get it for 'free'.