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While I 100% agree about the amount of inhumane policies and do not believe the US (or any other nation) are free. It is completely untrue that the only freedo

by syshum 9y ago

While I 100% agree about the amount of inhumane policies and do not believe the US (or any other nation) are free. It is completely untrue that the only freedoms Americans care about is guns, that seems like that because 1. The Mainstream media loves to cover it 2. Guns are a taboo or unusual Topic for many nations 3. Given the US is one of the last if not the last first world nation that has few regulations on owning Auto-Loading guns it is common for other nations to us that as a sign post to express how "backwards" the US is, and virtue signal how much "better" they are in comparison because they outlawed the evil gun 4. The US has made lots of process in the progression of liberty even in my life time. Drugs laws are beginning to loosen, More expansions on Free Speech over the protest of the "hate Speech is not free speech" people, and others Over all there is MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH more work to be done for the cause of liberty, but the idea that Americans only care about guns is simply incorrect or rather incomplete probably based on biased news coverage

anigbrowl 9y ago
virtue signal how much "better" they are in comparison because they outlawed the evil gun No, it's much more common for some Americans to virtue signal how free they feel by the number and caliber of the guns they own. People in other countries don't hate guns, they just recognize their destructive potential and limit their availability on that basis. To the extent that they think they're better, it's because they have so few episodes of mass or casual murder by comparison. The US has made lots of process in the progression of liberty even in my life time. Drugs laws are beginning to loosen, You mean the drug laws that the US instituted in the 70s and then kept ratcheting up penalties on for a couple decades afterwards? If you were born in the 90s I realize it's hard to conceptualize variations in the law prior to that, but you should probably look into the political roots of the drug war and the economics involved in its export. More expansions on Free Speech over the protest of the "hate Speech is not free speech" people, and others It's odd that the people who've championed the freedom to express support for genocide under the rubric of free speech have been entirely absent from just about every other free speech cause in recent memory. You might want to broaden your scope a little bit.
- syshum 9y ago
  >>People in other countries don't hate guns Hate probably not, irrationally scared by an inanimate object is a better description. >>they just recognize their destructive potential and limit their availability on that basis Same irrational justification is used for all manner of restrictions on liberty, but my rights should not be infringed upon simply because other people do bad things that goes for all rights from free speech, to self defense, to many many many others >>You mean the drug laws that the US instituted in the 70s and then kept ratcheting up penalties on for a couple decades afterwards? History of Drugs laws go back far further than just the 70s >>If you were born in the 90s I realize it's hard to conceptualize variations in the law prior to that I was not, I predate the 90's by a good margin, and I also know a good deal about American History from our inception. But please continue to try to educate me, I love when people make themselves look foolish saves me the trouble >>It's odd that the people who've championed the freedom to express support for genocide under the rubric of free speech have been entirely absent from just about every other free speech cause in recent memory. You might want to broaden your scope a little bit Given you do not know me, or what issues have I have or have not supported it is highly unlikely you know if I was "absent from just about every other free speech cause in recent memory" it is likely I was not given I am a Philosophical Left-Libertarian that values individual liberty over all else including what is best for "society" and I largely reject all forms of collectivism and "the greater good" which is often used as the basis for the suppression of speech and individual liberty
- s2g 9y ago
  They love to point out that no one else is free, anywhere. It's ridiculous.

by syshum 9y ago

anigbrowl 9y ago

virtue signal how much "better" they are in comparison because they outlawed the evil gun No, it's much more common for some Americans to virtue signal how free they feel by the number and caliber of the guns they own. People in other countries don't hate guns, they just recognize their destructive potential and limit their availability on that basis. To the extent that they think they're better, it's because they have so few episodes of mass or casual murder by comparison. The US has made lots of process in the progression of liberty even in my life time. Drugs laws are beginning to loosen, You mean the drug laws that the US instituted in the 70s and then kept ratcheting up penalties on for a couple decades afterwards? If you were born in the 90s I realize it's hard to conceptualize variations in the law prior to that, but you should probably look into the political roots of the drug war and the economics involved in its export. More expansions on Free Speech over the protest of the "hate Speech is not free speech" people, and others It's odd that the people who've championed the freedom to express support for genocide under the rubric of free speech have been entirely absent from just about every other free speech cause in recent memory. You might want to broaden your scope a little bit.

syshum 9y ago
>>People in other countries don't hate guns Hate probably not, irrationally scared by an inanimate object is a better description. >>they just recognize their destructive potential and limit their availability on that basis Same irrational justification is used for all manner of restrictions on liberty, but my rights should not be infringed upon simply because other people do bad things that goes for all rights from free speech, to self defense, to many many many others >>You mean the drug laws that the US instituted in the 70s and then kept ratcheting up penalties on for a couple decades afterwards? History of Drugs laws go back far further than just the 70s >>If you were born in the 90s I realize it's hard to conceptualize variations in the law prior to that I was not, I predate the 90's by a good margin, and I also know a good deal about American History from our inception. But please continue to try to educate me, I love when people make themselves look foolish saves me the trouble >>It's odd that the people who've championed the freedom to express support for genocide under the rubric of free speech have been entirely absent from just about every other free speech cause in recent memory. You might want to broaden your scope a little bit Given you do not know me, or what issues have I have or have not supported it is highly unlikely you know if I was "absent from just about every other free speech cause in recent memory" it is likely I was not given I am a Philosophical Left-Libertarian that values individual liberty over all else including what is best for "society" and I largely reject all forms of collectivism and "the greater good" which is often used as the basis for the suppression of speech and individual liberty
s2g 9y ago
They love to point out that no one else is free, anywhere. It's ridiculous.