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Wonder how much it cost Cloudflare to buy 1.1.1.0/8 from China Telecom...

• duskwuff 9y ago
  1.1.1.0/24, you mean? Probably very little; the prefix gets tons of junk traffic.
  • mrb 9y ago
    Yeah, meant /24
• gruez 9y ago
  They don't need to buy the whole /8, they only need to buy the first /24
  • bogomipz 9y ago
    You don't actually buy CIDR prefixes.
• ocdtrekkie 9y ago
  The blog says APNIC owns it, does it not?
• bogomipz 9y ago
  Where did you get China Telecom from? The IANA released 1.0.0.0/8 to APNIC in 2010 and 1.1.1.0/24 was assigned to APNIC-LABS. The IRR Netname is actually still APNIC-LABS too. See: https://stat.ripe.net/1.1.1.1#tabId=at-a-glance https://stat.ripe.net/1.1.1.1#tabId=at-a-glance
  • bringtheaction 9y ago
    > The IRR Netname is actually still APNIC-LABS too. This is consistent with information on the page. > 1.1.1.1 is a partnership between Cloudflare and APNIC.
  • mrb 9y ago
    The IANA released 1.0.0.0/8 to APNIC, and APNIC subsequently sold parts of it to China Telecom. I deduct this because neighboring IP ranges (https://stat.ripe.net/1.1.0.0#tabId=at-a-glance https://stat.ripe.net/1.1.0.0#tabId=at-a-glance and https://stat.ripe.net/1.1.2.0#tabId=at-a-glance https://stat.ripe.net/1.1.2.0#tabId=at-a-glance) belong to China Telecom. So 1.1.1.0 likely did too. I think the whois information may have reflected the China Telecom ownership before it was updated. APNIC-LABS is probably just a joint partner in that Cloudflare resolver project.
    • tialaramex 9y ago
      No. 1.1.1.0/24 was not allocated because idiots poisoned it. For a long time address ranges like these were left unused because it wasn't worth anybody's time handling the problems but since IPv4 is now full we may as well do what we can with them. So China Telecom will never have been given 1.1.1.0/24
      • bogomipz 9y ago
        Indeed, and there was always great worry about how polluted that IP space might be. I posted this link elsewhere: https://www.merit.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/1.0.0.08.pdf https://www.merit.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/1.0.0.08.pd...
        • mrb 9y ago
          Very insightful slides. I was wrong about 1.1.1.0/8