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There's also selection bias at work here though - the only responses that'll get media attention are the ones that are novel or 'newsworthy' - we aren't seeing

by mlb_hn 9y ago

There's also selection bias at work here though - the only responses that'll get media attention are the ones that are novel or 'newsworthy' - we aren't seeing the normal boring comments.

dawhizkid 9y ago
It's unusual for a company that big to have so few leaks in their 14 years of existence, especially one that is that high profile. My understanding is that FB does not have a "fear-based" culture that would've prevented leaks, so really the only way they could keep people in line at scale is if there was a cultish element to their onboarding process that makes people "love" FB so much that employees are actually so offended by a leaker to make comments like this.
- lovelearning 9y ago
  But it does have a fear-based culture when it comes to leaks. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/16/facebooks-secret-police-catchers-leakers-former-employee-alleges.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/16/facebooks-secret-police-catc...
  - ocdtrekkie 9y ago
    Fairly capable private investigative and security forces are pretty common for tech companies now. I am not surprised Facebook falls into this category. Google's is run by a guy named Brian Katz, who's been the subject of a lawsuit before: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/12/anonymous-googler-files-suit-against-his-employer-over-secrecy-policies/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/12/anonymous-google... and the very same has allegedly threatened a bartender who found a prototype Nexus 4: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2224589/Google-threatened-bartender-employee-accidentally-left-secret-phone-bar.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2224589/Google-threa... Apple security folks have tossed a guy's home looking for a prototype iPhone, escorted by police. All of them, allegedly, had badges: https://gizmodo.com/5836990/lost-iphone-5-investigators-were-impersonating-police https://gizmodo.com/5836990/lost-iphone-5-investigators-were... They obviously can intimidate employees into silence, but it's far more useful and beneficial for morale to go for the "loyalty" angle, and make sure employees shame others who leak.
    - DyslexicAtheist 9y ago
      you'd be surprised by the number of "job opportunities" where Mike Ehrmantraut skills are required (jobs subcontracted to subcontractors) in multinational corporations.
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by mlb_hn 9y ago

There's also selection bias at work here though - the only responses that'll get media attention are the ones that are novel or 'newsworthy' - we aren't seeing the normal boring comments.

dawhizkid 9y ago

It's unusual for a company that big to have so few leaks in their 14 years of existence, especially one that is that high profile. My understanding is that FB does not have a "fear-based" culture that would've prevented leaks, so really the only way they could keep people in line at scale is if there was a cultish element to their onboarding process that makes people "love" FB so much that employees are actually so offended by a leaker to make comments like this.

lovelearning 9y ago
But it does have a fear-based culture when it comes to leaks. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/16/facebooks-secret-police-catchers-leakers-former-employee-alleges.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/16/facebooks-secret-police-catc...
- ocdtrekkie 9y ago
  Fairly capable private investigative and security forces are pretty common for tech companies now. I am not surprised Facebook falls into this category. Google's is run by a guy named Brian Katz, who's been the subject of a lawsuit before: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/12/anonymous-googler-files-suit-against-his-employer-over-secrecy-policies/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/12/anonymous-google... and the very same has allegedly threatened a bartender who found a prototype Nexus 4: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2224589/Google-threatened-bartender-employee-accidentally-left-secret-phone-bar.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2224589/Google-threa... Apple security folks have tossed a guy's home looking for a prototype iPhone, escorted by police. All of them, allegedly, had badges: https://gizmodo.com/5836990/lost-iphone-5-investigators-were-impersonating-police https://gizmodo.com/5836990/lost-iphone-5-investigators-were... They obviously can intimidate employees into silence, but it's far more useful and beneficial for morale to go for the "loyalty" angle, and make sure employees shame others who leak.
  - DyslexicAtheist 9y ago
    you'd be surprised by the number of "job opportunities" where Mike Ehrmantraut skills are required (jobs subcontracted to subcontractors) in multinational corporations.

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