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From the original post by "Boz"[0]: > Maybe it costs a life by exposing someone to bullies. Maybe someone dies in a terrorist attack coordinated on our tools.

From the original post by "Boz"[0]: > Maybe it costs a life by exposing someone to bullies. Maybe someone dies in a terrorist attack coordinated on our tools. And we still connect people This guy is a VP at Facebook. Words mean things and his words have weight within the company. This alone disgusts me. He could have easily taken the other side of the argument to stir debate and chose not to. > Leakers, please resign instead of sabotaging the company I think the level of hubris espoused by these Facebook employees is a much better reason to delete Facebook than anything I've seen so far. In fact, although the data we have gotten is incomplete, it seems to possibly be the general feeling. The focus on growth and profit over any thought of doing the right thing is actually evil, especially when one recognizes that evil is being done. This company is no longer a small company built out of a dorm room. It is a massive publicly traded company that has revenues and active users in the billions. Despite the current climate, words actually have meaning, especially words greatly amplified on these tools, and these actions have real consequences. [0] https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanmac/growth-at-any-cost-top-facebook-executive-defended-data https://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanmac/growth-at-any-cost-top-face...

hypertexthero 9y ago
He does seem like a bit of a bully himself: http://boz.com/articles/be-kind.html http://boz.com/articles/be-kind.html
- sah2ed 9y ago
  Not cool. You comment descends a bit into ad hominem territory. That blog post was basically Boz publicly acknowledging a personal flaw he hadn't been aware of up until his interaction with Dustin. In other words, calling him a mean co-worker in 2008 would be an accurate characterization, if we rely on his recollection of events when Dustin was still Facebook CTO. Calling him a mean co-worker now would be an unfair characterization. FWIW, Jeff Bezos told a similar story of how he became aware of his meanness to his grandmother in a commencement address in 2010, though in his own case he was a 10 yo boy when he came to that realization. [0]. [0] https://www.princeton.edu/news/2010/05/30/2010-baccalaureate-remarks https://www.princeton.edu/news/2010/05/30/2010-baccalaureate...
Aunche 9y ago
The reason Facebookers hate leakers so much is because it helps no one. The leaker gets to continue working his cushy software job while a bunch of PR people are forced to work overtime to control the situation. Facebook is going to continue to do whatever it wants to do, but they'll just be more secretive about it within the company. Boz could have easily written a memo with corporate-speak if he just wanted everyone to drink the Kool-Aid.
- sanbor 9y ago
  > The reason Facebookers hate leakers so much is because it helps no one. It helps the general public by giving insight about how crazy is the people that builds and moderate the platform used to communicate by millions of people.
  - Aunche 9y ago
    How are they crazy? If anything, I think it's refreshing that a VP acknowledges Facebook's problems. If he never acknowledged it, everything would be peachy. I guess ignorance is bliss for most people.
- wbronitsky 9y ago
  It helps me understand what is really going on behind closed doors. I think you meant that "it helps no one who works at facebook" a demographic that most of us don't care about at all
- vkou 9y ago
  It sometimes helps the public, against whom the conspiracy is performed. Do you think Snowden's leaks were intended to help the NSA?

hypertexthero 9y ago

He does seem like a bit of a bully himself: http://boz.com/articles/be-kind.html http://boz.com/articles/be-kind.html

sah2ed 9y ago
Not cool. You comment descends a bit into ad hominem territory. That blog post was basically Boz publicly acknowledging a personal flaw he hadn't been aware of up until his interaction with Dustin. In other words, calling him a mean co-worker in 2008 would be an accurate characterization, if we rely on his recollection of events when Dustin was still Facebook CTO. Calling him a mean co-worker now would be an unfair characterization. FWIW, Jeff Bezos told a similar story of how he became aware of his meanness to his grandmother in a commencement address in 2010, though in his own case he was a 10 yo boy when he came to that realization. [0]. [0] https://www.princeton.edu/news/2010/05/30/2010-baccalaureate-remarks https://www.princeton.edu/news/2010/05/30/2010-baccalaureate...

Aunche 9y ago

The reason Facebookers hate leakers so much is because it helps no one. The leaker gets to continue working his cushy software job while a bunch of PR people are forced to work overtime to control the situation. Facebook is going to continue to do whatever it wants to do, but they'll just be more secretive about it within the company. Boz could have easily written a memo with corporate-speak if he just wanted everyone to drink the Kool-Aid.

sanbor 9y ago
> The reason Facebookers hate leakers so much is because it helps no one. It helps the general public by giving insight about how crazy is the people that builds and moderate the platform used to communicate by millions of people.
- Aunche 9y ago
  How are they crazy? If anything, I think it's refreshing that a VP acknowledges Facebook's problems. If he never acknowledged it, everything would be peachy. I guess ignorance is bliss for most people.
wbronitsky 9y ago
It helps me understand what is really going on behind closed doors. I think you meant that "it helps no one who works at facebook" a demographic that most of us don't care about at all
vkou 9y ago
It sometimes helps the public, against whom the conspiracy is performed. Do you think Snowden's leaks were intended to help the NSA?