> I want to live in the future (even if the products are still in beta!) Now we're getting in to why traditional automakers are 'stodgy' and 'risk averse'. I

> I want to live in the future (even if the products are still in beta!) Now we're getting in to why traditional automakers are 'stodgy' and 'risk averse'. I do agree that there is a lot that can be improved in cars, but a ship software at a million miles an hour approach seems like the kind of practice that will end up externalizing the costs to the rest of us. Edit: I'm gonna leave this up, but it doesn't really reflect the friendly tone I'm trying to put across - I've enjoyed this chat.