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> I'm unwilling to buy a car stuck in time in it's model year You know I used to think this way, then all my computing devices started changing often for the w

> I'm unwilling to buy a car stuck in time in it's model year You know I used to think this way, then all my computing devices started changing often for the worse with every update. For me a stable device that doesn't change month-to-month is a feature, not a disadvantage. Give me the LTS branch of the car world.

toomuchtodo 9y ago
I can appreciate that perspective. I want to live at the bleeding edge, and don't mind the inconveniences or regressions. I can't take my money with me when I die, so after savings and basic needs are met, I want to live in the future (even if the products are still in beta!). I can't get that sort of experience from stodgy, risk adverse legacy enterprises. I want to support enterprises that want to succeed or die. EDIT: Edit after your edit, keep the LTS builds, give me nightly! Tests pass? Ship it!
- jackvalentine 9y ago
  Please don't beta test your products on the same roads I'm using with my stable branch ;)
  - toomuchtodo 9y ago
    > Tests pass? Ship it! If there are bugs, more tests! And always, always, always degrade gracefully.
    - jackvalentine 9y ago
      > I want to live in the future (even if the products are still in beta!) Now we're getting in to why traditional automakers are 'stodgy' and 'risk averse'. I do agree that there is a lot that can be improved in cars, but a ship software at a million miles an hour approach seems like the kind of practice that will end up externalizing the costs to the rest of us. Edit: I'm gonna leave this up, but it doesn't really reflect the friendly tone I'm trying to put across - I've enjoyed this chat.
    - numbsafari 9y ago
      This is the kind of self-centered, callous mindset that runs over innocent pedestrians. It’s a car, not a web site. People other than the drivers’ lives are at risk when you drive on public roads.
      - toomuchtodo 9y ago
        I’m the one who is responsible for the vehicle at all times, not an Uber safety driver who isn’t paying attention, and I take that responsibility seriously.
- Fins 9y ago
  Can you be isolated to a testing serv^H^H^H^H roads?

toomuchtodo 9y ago

I can appreciate that perspective. I want to live at the bleeding edge, and don't mind the inconveniences or regressions. I can't take my money with me when I die, so after savings and basic needs are met, I want to live in the future (even if the products are still in beta!). I can't get that sort of experience from stodgy, risk adverse legacy enterprises. I want to support enterprises that want to succeed or die. EDIT: Edit after your edit, keep the LTS builds, give me nightly! Tests pass? Ship it!

jackvalentine 9y ago
Please don't beta test your products on the same roads I'm using with my stable branch ;)
- toomuchtodo 9y ago
  > Tests pass? Ship it! If there are bugs, more tests! And always, always, always degrade gracefully.
  - jackvalentine 9y ago
    > I want to live in the future (even if the products are still in beta!) Now we're getting in to why traditional automakers are 'stodgy' and 'risk averse'. I do agree that there is a lot that can be improved in cars, but a ship software at a million miles an hour approach seems like the kind of practice that will end up externalizing the costs to the rest of us. Edit: I'm gonna leave this up, but it doesn't really reflect the friendly tone I'm trying to put across - I've enjoyed this chat.
  - numbsafari 9y ago
    This is the kind of self-centered, callous mindset that runs over innocent pedestrians. It’s a car, not a web site. People other than the drivers’ lives are at risk when you drive on public roads.
    - toomuchtodo 9y ago
      I’m the one who is responsible for the vehicle at all times, not an Uber safety driver who isn’t paying attention, and I take that responsibility seriously.
Fins 9y ago
Can you be isolated to a testing serv^H^H^H^H roads?