You just moved the goalpost by miles. The question is whether Bitcoin and Ethereum have provided value. "Have" means in the past up to and including the presen

You just moved the goalpost by miles. The question is whether Bitcoin and Ethereum have provided value. "Have" means in the past up to and including the present. You are implicitly agreeing with the statement that Bitcoin is only speculative, by admitting that it will only be useful without middlemen in a hypothetical future where it achieves wide adoption.