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This is incorrect. The high power charge is 20 volts, below the safe threshold of ~50V set by such agencies as: OSHA, NFPA, ANSI, IEEE, UL, IEC and others. The

This is incorrect. The high power charge is 20 volts, below the safe threshold of ~50V set by such agencies as: OSHA, NFPA, ANSI, IEEE, UL, IEC and others. The real difference is USB was a completely new technology with zero market penetration so growing pains were inevitable. USB-C should not have these growing pains as they should have learned from 20+ years of developing the standard.

gok 9y ago
There is relatively little risk of electrocution but 100 watts can still be more dangerous than 10 watts. Overheating and fire are a much bigger risk.
derefr 9y ago
Is it really large, established manufacturers who are making these mistakes? Or is it random fist-time hardware entrepreneurs in Shenzhen? Analogy: we don’t blame Javascript-the-language-standard for the Node community’s constant (and usually half-assed) reinvention of build tools. Javascript itself didn’t cause that. More than likely, it was a glut of newbie developers joining the community—and building tools for one-another, rather than leaving it to the experienced people—that caused that.
- nvarsj 9y ago
  > Is it really large, established manufacturers who are making these mistakes? Yes. Just read the NathanK or Benson google+ pages. Very few USB-C accessories are compliant - almost every one has some bug in its implementation, some worse than others. Apple cables are good, but even they took a couple iterations to get it right.
- zrobotics 9y ago
  Considering this article is about the switch not being compliant, yes. Nintendo has quite a lot of experience making hardware, and they didn't get it right. Right now USB-c is a mess, and I'm not aware of any controllers on the market that are compliant and easy to use.
- shkkmo 9y ago
  Yes, Anker had to issue a recall for a USB C cable that could fry devices: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/30/anker_usbc_cables_recalled/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/30/anker_usbc_cables_r...

gok 9y ago

There is relatively little risk of electrocution but 100 watts can still be more dangerous than 10 watts. Overheating and fire are a much bigger risk.

derefr 9y ago

Is it really large, established manufacturers who are making these mistakes? Or is it random fist-time hardware entrepreneurs in Shenzhen? Analogy: we don’t blame Javascript-the-language-standard for the Node community’s constant (and usually half-assed) reinvention of build tools. Javascript itself didn’t cause that. More than likely, it was a glut of newbie developers joining the community—and building tools for one-another, rather than leaving it to the experienced people—that caused that.

nvarsj 9y ago
> Is it really large, established manufacturers who are making these mistakes? Yes. Just read the NathanK or Benson google+ pages. Very few USB-C accessories are compliant - almost every one has some bug in its implementation, some worse than others. Apple cables are good, but even they took a couple iterations to get it right.
zrobotics 9y ago
Considering this article is about the switch not being compliant, yes. Nintendo has quite a lot of experience making hardware, and they didn't get it right. Right now USB-c is a mess, and I'm not aware of any controllers on the market that are compliant and easy to use.
shkkmo 9y ago
Yes, Anker had to issue a recall for a USB C cable that could fry devices: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/30/anker_usbc_cables_recalled/ https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/30/anker_usbc_cables_r...