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Under the guidelines of the Clean Water Act by the EPA, silver iodide is considered a hazardous substance, a priority pollutant, and as a toxic

Under the guidelines of the Clean Water Act by the EPA, silver iodide is considered a hazardous substance, a priority pollutant, and as a toxic pollutant.(10) Some industries have learned this all too well. ... If the toxicity manifests in pollution and illnesses, the effects may not be reversible ... http://www.ranches.org/cloudseedingharmful.htm http://www.ranches.org/cloudseedingharmful.htm So.... this doesn't seem like the best idea.

celticninja 9y ago
China seems to be somewhere that is happy with short term solutions without considering longer term impacts.
- staz 9y ago
  compared to the rest of the world?
  - antoineMoPa 9y ago
    Yeah I'd 's/China/Humans/'. I'm referring to the fact that (mostly) everyone emits CO2 with cars, without caring about longer term impacts on global climate, sea rise, increase of hurricane frequency and intensity, etc.
    - forapurpose 9y ago
      > (mostly) everyone emits CO2 with cars, without caring about longer term impacts on global climate, sea rise, increase of hurricane frequency and intensity, etc. I don't think that's accurate. Most? countries regulate CO2. European countries do, for example.
      - antoineMoPa 9y ago
        According to this graph, car seems to be dominant in europe too. [2014] Of course Europe is doing better and I'd like to see more trains in Canada and the US. http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/File:Modal_split_of_inland_passenger_transport,_2014_(%25_of_total_inland_passenger-km)_YB17.png http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/...
  - wnevets 9y ago
    who else is shooting silver iodide into the sky?
    - Dangeranger 9y ago
      Well the United States did from 1962-1983.[0] Unfortunately humans learn best from negative consequences, rather than from historical observation. Most bad things have already been tried before. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Stormfury https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Stormfury
      - slededit 9y ago
        Doesn't sound like there were any major negative consequences - just that it was ineffective at stopping hurricanes and cyclones.
- onetimemanytime 9y ago
  I think it's a developmental stage. Do it and then stop it. See those (ex-)factories near major US cities? China has stopped of pollution already, after ruining the manufacturing base in richer countries.
jesseb 9y ago
Interesting. Cloud seeding using Silver Iodide is still in use in Canada, as part of the Alberta Hail Suppression Project[0]. These little differences between Canada and the US always surprise me. [0] https://globalnews.ca/news/3514775/alberta-severe-weather-summer/ https://globalnews.ca/news/3514775/alberta-severe-weather-su...
truculation 9y ago
Regardless of the merits or demerits of this particular scheme, I admire the spirit. With a fraction of such confidence we could revive the Neanderthals, build an asteroid defence system, clean up the oceans, on and on. Instead we're not trying much. We feel ashamed... because... why?
- RobertRoberts 9y ago
  At what cost? Some cultures do not value the health and life of the every day person. I don't think that is something to be honored or respected.
  - blacksmith_tb 9y ago
    While clearly true, I think we'd have to rephrase that as "all cultures" - here in the US people are sleeping on the sidewalk outside my office. In the PRC, they're willing to gamble on geoengineering which could poison people (just not people in power). I can't think of any current society that really values every member - but we can keep working towards that goal...
    - RobertRoberts 9y ago
      >I think we'd have to rephrase that as "all cultures" Absolutely agree, but here we have the freedom to protest the government itself, and do so openly for as long as we need to to make a change. They literally have a dictator for life that just came into power weeks ago.
    - deephoney 9y ago
      Scandinavian societies are pretty good at looking after everyone "in" the society, though for outsiders things can be hit and miss.
- Raphmedia 9y ago
  Well, it's that spirit in the first place that gave us such polluted oceans.

celticninja 9y ago

China seems to be somewhere that is happy with short term solutions without considering longer term impacts.

staz 9y ago
compared to the rest of the world?
- antoineMoPa 9y ago
  Yeah I'd 's/China/Humans/'. I'm referring to the fact that (mostly) everyone emits CO2 with cars, without caring about longer term impacts on global climate, sea rise, increase of hurricane frequency and intensity, etc.
  - forapurpose 9y ago
    > (mostly) everyone emits CO2 with cars, without caring about longer term impacts on global climate, sea rise, increase of hurricane frequency and intensity, etc. I don't think that's accurate. Most? countries regulate CO2. European countries do, for example.
    - antoineMoPa 9y ago
      According to this graph, car seems to be dominant in europe too. [2014] Of course Europe is doing better and I'd like to see more trains in Canada and the US. http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/File:Modal_split_of_inland_passenger_transport,_2014_(%25_of_total_inland_passenger-km)_YB17.png http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/...
- wnevets 9y ago
  who else is shooting silver iodide into the sky?
  - Dangeranger 9y ago
    Well the United States did from 1962-1983.[0] Unfortunately humans learn best from negative consequences, rather than from historical observation. Most bad things have already been tried before. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Stormfury https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Stormfury
    - slededit 9y ago
      Doesn't sound like there were any major negative consequences - just that it was ineffective at stopping hurricanes and cyclones.
onetimemanytime 9y ago
I think it's a developmental stage. Do it and then stop it. See those (ex-)factories near major US cities? China has stopped of pollution already, after ruining the manufacturing base in richer countries.

jesseb 9y ago

Interesting. Cloud seeding using Silver Iodide is still in use in Canada, as part of the Alberta Hail Suppression Project[0]. These little differences between Canada and the US always surprise me. [0] https://globalnews.ca/news/3514775/alberta-severe-weather-summer/ https://globalnews.ca/news/3514775/alberta-severe-weather-su...

truculation 9y ago

Regardless of the merits or demerits of this particular scheme, I admire the spirit. With a fraction of such confidence we could revive the Neanderthals, build an asteroid defence system, clean up the oceans, on and on. Instead we're not trying much. We feel ashamed... because... why?

RobertRoberts 9y ago
At what cost? Some cultures do not value the health and life of the every day person. I don't think that is something to be honored or respected.
- blacksmith_tb 9y ago
  While clearly true, I think we'd have to rephrase that as "all cultures" - here in the US people are sleeping on the sidewalk outside my office. In the PRC, they're willing to gamble on geoengineering which could poison people (just not people in power). I can't think of any current society that really values every member - but we can keep working towards that goal...
  - RobertRoberts 9y ago
    >I think we'd have to rephrase that as "all cultures" Absolutely agree, but here we have the freedom to protest the government itself, and do so openly for as long as we need to to make a change. They literally have a dictator for life that just came into power weeks ago.
  - deephoney 9y ago
    Scandinavian societies are pretty good at looking after everyone "in" the society, though for outsiders things can be hit and miss.
Raphmedia 9y ago
Well, it's that spirit in the first place that gave us such polluted oceans.