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Most of those technologies are known for either how they handle complexity, or the coordination between asynchronous actors with shared resources

gaius 9y ago
Uhhh what? jq is basically an updated sed. One input stream, one output stream, no awareness of anything else
- joncampbelldev 9y ago
  Perhaps they meant it as a good example of the type of component to build systems out of, simple input->output. Unsure though.
- JshWright 9y ago
  You don't see how a simple input/output streaming model would be helpful in understanding systems theory and design? There are a _lot_ of systems out there that tie together various components with tools that behave a lot like jq (or literally are jq...)
  - gaius 9y ago
    Yes this is how every Unix command line utility works. There is nothing unique about jq in this regard, and there is nothing particularly “systems thinking” about any of them. You can and people have used them for decades without doing any special “systems thinking”.
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    - prepend 9y ago
      The Unix model is really useful in my systems thinking precisely because thousands of components all use the stream in/out approach. This made then reliable within a system to be used together in many different combinations and interactions. Also a good example of loose coupling that allows for good thinking of systems. In school we watched the 1990 movie [MindWalk](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100151/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100151/). You can watch it on YouTube https://youtu.be/Uec1CX-6A38 https://youtu.be/Uec1CX-6A38
    - sheepmullet 9y ago
      > There is nothing unique about jq in this regard Does there have to be? It's simply an example of a good systems pattern/approach.
- bordercases 9y ago
  I took your "e.g." to mean inclusive of jq and Erlang, but extensive to the entire list. What I said applies to Erlang, OSes, and LISP, but maybe not to jq (I wouldn't know).

gaius 9y ago

Uhhh what? jq is basically an updated sed. One input stream, one output stream, no awareness of anything else

joncampbelldev 9y ago
Perhaps they meant it as a good example of the type of component to build systems out of, simple input->output. Unsure though.
JshWright 9y ago
You don't see how a simple input/output streaming model would be helpful in understanding systems theory and design? There are a _lot_ of systems out there that tie together various components with tools that behave a lot like jq (or literally are jq...)
- gaius 9y ago
  Yes this is how every Unix command line utility works. There is nothing unique about jq in this regard, and there is nothing particularly “systems thinking” about any of them. You can and people have used them for decades without doing any special “systems thinking”.
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  - prepend 9y ago
    The Unix model is really useful in my systems thinking precisely because thousands of components all use the stream in/out approach. This made then reliable within a system to be used together in many different combinations and interactions. Also a good example of loose coupling that allows for good thinking of systems. In school we watched the 1990 movie [MindWalk](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100151/ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100151/). You can watch it on YouTube https://youtu.be/Uec1CX-6A38 https://youtu.be/Uec1CX-6A38
  - sheepmullet 9y ago
    > There is nothing unique about jq in this regard Does there have to be? It's simply an example of a good systems pattern/approach.
bordercases 9y ago
I took your "e.g." to mean inclusive of jq and Erlang, but extensive to the entire list. What I said applies to Erlang, OSes, and LISP, but maybe not to jq (I wouldn't know).