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> But if you ask from the scientists from those fields Ask them what, about the many lives that are saved from malnutrition as the commenter asserted? You answ
by SlowBro 9y ago
> But if you ask from the scientists from those fields
Ask them what, about the many lives that are saved from malnutrition as the commenter asserted? You answered about safety. Neither of us are discussing safety. (Well, I did as an aside. It was not the main point.) That is a separate subject.
Are millions of lives really saved from malnutrition? Kindly provide evidence for such assertions. I’m interested.
As another aside, while looking for evidence that GMOs saved lives through nutrition I was reminded that the economic engine seed producers profit from has brought poverty to farmers in India. 200,000 have committed suicide over increased farming debts. Seeds are far more expensive now, and cannot be saved.[1]
[1] http://www.voltairenet.org/article159305.html http://www.voltairenet.org/article159305.html
- sampo 9y agoThis study is much narrower in scope than what you are asking for, but it is something. http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0181353 http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal....
- SlowBro 9y agoAgain this is not about millions of lives saved, but about potential millions of lives saved. Where is the _actual_ evidence of GMO’s salvation of millions?
- AstralStorm 9y agoThe problem is lack of control group. The control group is heavily pesticide laden non-GMO... (Green Revolution. Heh.) Those practices were invented some 60 years ago. It is not just artificial fertilizers. So unless you somehow solve the problem of mass producing food in pesticide free agriculture, please do not ask for impossible studies.
- SlowBro 9y agoIf evidence cannot be provided, then I kindly ask that impossible-to-prove assertions not be made. But the control group — wouldn’t it be non-GMO crops of any kind, organic or non? The assertion, yet to be provided evidence for, is that with gene editing many more millions are no longer suffering malnutrition. That seems to me to be easy evidence to provide if it’s true. If it’s true, evidence should be able to be shown that nutrition content has increased by X percent leading to X thousand lives not perishing. “Since the introduction of high vitamin C rice in Zambezia, the rates of scurvy have dropped by 32%. Vitamin C is difficult to obtain in Zambezia by any other means.” I don’t see how a discussion of pesticides enters into it. By the way, Nobel laureates can be wrong. The prize was awarded in 1948 for the invention of DDT.[1] [1] https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/1948/ https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/1...
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