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You should probably talk to a lawyer, because given what’s been said in this thread alone, you’re never going to be able to argue that you didn’t knowingly faci

You should probably talk to a lawyer, because given what’s been said in this thread alone, you’re never going to be able to argue that you didn’t knowingly facilitate. Love it or hate it, new laws make that problematic even for Google. I mean, this is damning: Illegality and immorality are different, and - speaking personally - I don't have an issue with the platform used for moral but illegal uses.

cgmg 9y ago
Why do you think that is damning?
- quiq 9y ago
  I believe a bunch of legislation has language regarding being "aware" and "knowingly facilitating." Safe harbor goes out the window if you know things are going on and do nothing. How being p2p factors in is beyond my armchair.
  - acct1771 9y ago
    Because Google isn't aware of pirate/CP search results on their platform?
    - thinkloop 9y ago
      I too think this statement matters with regards to law. Knowing that your platform can be used nefariously is one thing, being ok with it is another. Once the witch hunt starts it can get tricky fast.
    - zaarn 9y ago
      And SESTA/FOSTA will apply to them too. It's a horrible set of laws.
  - rebuilder 9y ago
    Does that apply to software developers as well as service providers? Wouldn't the Tor project get prosecuted into the ground under such legislation?
- IAmGraydon 9y ago
  It's obviously damning because it shows that he knows he's potentially facilitating illegal activity.
stiangrindvoll 9y ago
A blacksmith knows good and well that his newly forged hammer, meant for building and construction, is also used for destruction and despair.
- kennywinker 9y ago
  I'm pretty sure a vanishingly small number of hammers actually get used for destruction and despair, so I would have no problem being involved in hammer production. It does not just matter that something CAN be used for evil, it matters how likely it WILL be used for evil.
  - thinkloop 9y ago
    It seems you fully understand op's point!

cgmg 9y ago

Why do you think that is damning?

quiq 9y ago
I believe a bunch of legislation has language regarding being "aware" and "knowingly facilitating." Safe harbor goes out the window if you know things are going on and do nothing. How being p2p factors in is beyond my armchair.
- acct1771 9y ago
  Because Google isn't aware of pirate/CP search results on their platform?
  - thinkloop 9y ago
    I too think this statement matters with regards to law. Knowing that your platform can be used nefariously is one thing, being ok with it is another. Once the witch hunt starts it can get tricky fast.
  - zaarn 9y ago
    And SESTA/FOSTA will apply to them too. It's a horrible set of laws.
- rebuilder 9y ago
  Does that apply to software developers as well as service providers? Wouldn't the Tor project get prosecuted into the ground under such legislation?
IAmGraydon 9y ago
It's obviously damning because it shows that he knows he's potentially facilitating illegal activity.

stiangrindvoll 9y ago

A blacksmith knows good and well that his newly forged hammer, meant for building and construction, is also used for destruction and despair.

kennywinker 9y ago
I'm pretty sure a vanishingly small number of hammers actually get used for destruction and despair, so I would have no problem being involved in hammer production. It does not just matter that something CAN be used for evil, it matters how likely it WILL be used for evil.
- thinkloop 9y ago
  It seems you fully understand op's point!