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Ok, let’s look at an example of illegal and immoral. What will you do when people sell child porn on your platform?
by ExcelSaga 9y ago
Ok, let’s look at an example of illegal and immoral. What will you do when people sell child porn on your platform?
- Miner49er 9y agoI'm not with OpenBazaar, but I believe with how it works it's not possible to do anything. It's decentralized. The government should go after nodes hosting the illegal content.
- ExcelSaga 9y agoWith this as a stated goal, The world needs a protocol and network for trade that no one company or government controls. That's OpenBazaar... going after the network as a whole doesn’t seem unreasonable. The FBI for example, probably isn’t still in their Atlas Shrugged phase.
- thinkloop 9y agoHow do you go after the network as a whole? The nice thing about decentralization is that it forces government to be more surgical in their enforcement. State actors have all the tools necessary to identify and target individual bad actors. You have to be a real champion not to leak data or make a mistake over time. Bitcoin, for example, is much harder to hide than cash. In centralized systems it's just easier to be lazy and implement mass surveillance and absolute control - which a lot of people in the community disagree with. Terrorism for example barely exists, and barely ever existed, but massive apparatuses that infringe on the liberties of billions of people have been implemented in the name of it. Child porn, chemical/radioactive weapons trading, and assassination requests are the big 3 often cited - but really these too barely exist, and nations have more than enough resources to counter them with precision.
- OrganicMSG 9y ago>The world needs a protocol and network for trade that no one company or government controls. Strictly speaking, that is marketing hyperbole on their part as the world already has a lot of protocols and networks for trade that no one company or government controls, otherwise stuff like international mail would have problems.
- cgmg 9y agoInternational mail is far from being a distributed system like OpenBazaar.
- AlexCoventry 9y ago> The FBI for example, probably isn’t still in their Atlas Shrugged phase. Where can I read about the Objectivist FBI phase?
- tylersmith 9y agoI'm not a lawyer but I can confirm that there's no more that we can do to control content than Google can for the web or email. We (OB1) follow US law in our services but we have no control of the p2p network.
- ExcelSaga 9y agoYou should probably talk to a lawyer, because given what’s been said in this thread alone, you’re never going to be able to argue that you didn’t knowingly facilitate. Love it or hate it, new laws make that problematic even for Google. I mean, this is damning: Illegality and immorality are different, and - speaking personally - I don't have an issue with the platform used for moral but illegal uses.
- cgmg 9y agoWhy do you think that is damning?
- quiq 9y agoI believe a bunch of legislation has language regarding being "aware" and "knowingly facilitating." Safe harbor goes out the window if you know things are going on and do nothing. How being p2p factors in is beyond my armchair.
- acct1771 9y agoBecause Google isn't aware of pirate/CP search results on their platform?
- thinkloop 9y agoI too think this statement matters with regards to law. Knowing that your platform can be used nefariously is one thing, being ok with it is another. Once the witch hunt starts it can get tricky fast.
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- dexterdog 9y agoI would assume that if law enforcement becomes aware of it they buy it and find a way to trace it back to the seller.
- yorby 9y agoAuthorities will go after the platform instead of going after the people responsible.