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> Apple got this right from the beginning despite years of criticism about the "walled garden". Being a walled garden is independent of privacy. The calendar a

by aylmao 9y ago

> Apple got this right from the beginning despite years of criticism about the "walled garden". Being a walled garden is independent of privacy. The calendar app on macOS Calendar app allows me to share my calendars in an open format (ICAL) and interoperates with other calendar apps through that specification. It respects my privacy by not sharing anything I don't ask it to without being "walled". Signal is open and secure; iMessage could be a non-proprietary format and remain just as private. > all the press coverage of some app developer crying about App Store rejections or onerous rules. As far as I'm aware a lot of these weren't for privacy matters [1] and are sometimes a little much [2] (this one is specially absurd: [3]). [1]: https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/08/apples-widened-ban-on-templated-apps-is-wiping-small-businesses-from-the-app-store/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/08/apples-widened-ban-on-temp... [2]: https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/8/16992830/apple-emoji-crackdown-cross-platform-apps-slack-whatsapp https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/8/16992830/apple-emoji-crack... [3]: https://medium.com/@alariccole/apple-literally-stole-my-thunder-253aed27a455 https://medium.com/@alariccole/apple-literally-stole-my-thun... PS: > all the "open always wins" from the FOSS types I don't think that means what you think it means. FOSS and privacy are tangential matters.

intrasight 9y ago
> FOSS and privacy are tangential matters I totally agree (because it's true of course). But do recognize that it's in Apple's interest to conflate the two. To make it even more interesting, add "secure" to the list of matters.
iteriteratedone 9y ago
No its not ... an open env relies on transparency. No data no ads no money. Where apple can have a walled garden and privacy cause they have customers. Facebook knows who butters their bread too, its the advertisers. You are the product, not the customer.
arnoooooo 9y ago
> FOSS and privacy are tangential matters Actually, the only way privacy can be guaranteed is with code you control running on a machine your control. Free Software (and not Open Source) has everything to do with privacy, as it is about control.

by aylmao 9y ago

intrasight 9y ago

> FOSS and privacy are tangential matters I totally agree (because it's true of course). But do recognize that it's in Apple's interest to conflate the two. To make it even more interesting, add "secure" to the list of matters.

iteriteratedone 9y ago

No its not ... an open env relies on transparency. No data no ads no money. Where apple can have a walled garden and privacy cause they have customers. Facebook knows who butters their bread too, its the advertisers. You are the product, not the customer.

arnoooooo 9y ago

> FOSS and privacy are tangential matters Actually, the only way privacy can be guaranteed is with code you control running on a machine your control. Free Software (and not Open Source) has everything to do with privacy, as it is about control.