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Well, I once interviewed a guy who claimed to have done iOS development since 2007 – basically since the iPhone launch. There was no iOS SDK that year, it only

Well, I once interviewed a guy who claimed to have done iOS development since 2007 – basically since the iPhone launch. There was no iOS SDK that year, it only came later. Guy was a bit embarrassed when I pointed that out. This could have been a honest mistake, but then I started looking for more "mistakes" and found a bunch more non-plausible stuff. I then went ahead and hired another guy with literally zero job experience, but with interesting academic pursuits and who contributed to Compiz. Guy turned out to be amazing. Don't lie. If a company won't listen to you because you don't have an arbitrary number of years of experience in your CV (what's this, the aviation industry?), then it is not a company you want to be talking to anyway. EDIT: I should have said "Don't lie during the technical interview"

matte_black 9y ago
This isn’t an argument to not lie, it’s an argument to know what you are lying about. I’ve seen plenty of people lie their way into great jobs.
- outworlder 9y ago
  Me too. And frankly, I could not care less about whatever someone says to HR during the non-technical B.S. interview process that some companies have. "Tell me a time where you did X". Make up whatever story you want, they will not fact check you, as long as you don't overdo it. For technical interviews though, it depends on how deep the interviewer will want to probe. Banking that they won't care or don't know their stuff is not really a winning strategy. People may overlook some of the job requirements (many interviewers won't even look at what's written in the job offer itself!). They will not look the other way if they catch you lying, even if it about something that's of no consequence for the job. You get branded as not trustworthy from the get go.
psyc 9y ago
Is this true? My business partner and I started doing iOS app development in august of 2008, and we were distinctly afraid we were late. edit: Ok, the SDK arrived in March '08. I guess we weren't that late.
- outworlder 9y ago
  Mr. Jobs was adamant that web applications would be just fine, no SDK needed. You may remember that. So no SDK that year :)
orangecat 9y ago
There was no iOS SDK that year, it only came later. Jailbreakers figured out how to build native apps almost immediately, so it's not impossible. But it sounds like that's not what he was talking about.

matte_black 9y ago

This isn’t an argument to not lie, it’s an argument to know what you are lying about. I’ve seen plenty of people lie their way into great jobs.

outworlder 9y ago
Me too. And frankly, I could not care less about whatever someone says to HR during the non-technical B.S. interview process that some companies have. "Tell me a time where you did X". Make up whatever story you want, they will not fact check you, as long as you don't overdo it. For technical interviews though, it depends on how deep the interviewer will want to probe. Banking that they won't care or don't know their stuff is not really a winning strategy. People may overlook some of the job requirements (many interviewers won't even look at what's written in the job offer itself!). They will not look the other way if they catch you lying, even if it about something that's of no consequence for the job. You get branded as not trustworthy from the get go.

psyc 9y ago

Is this true? My business partner and I started doing iOS app development in august of 2008, and we were distinctly afraid we were late. edit: Ok, the SDK arrived in March '08. I guess we weren't that late.

outworlder 9y ago
Mr. Jobs was adamant that web applications would be just fine, no SDK needed. You may remember that. So no SDK that year :)

orangecat 9y ago

There was no iOS SDK that year, it only came later. Jailbreakers figured out how to build native apps almost immediately, so it's not impossible. But it sounds like that's not what he was talking about.