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Actual title: "California's Housing Prices Need to Come Down"

mc32 9y ago
Even more damning from the sub: "Shifting control of housing decisions from local to state oversight _could be a way_ to slow the rise of California’s house prices". Lot's of happy hoping for something. Since they like to just take random stabs to hope to come up with a kind of variable idea, here are mine: -Repeal prop 13. -Enact regional governmental authorities [ala PANYNJ[1]] to govern (coordinate) growth efforts. -Break the state into at least two distinct new states (it's too big an unwieldy to server everyone well) [1]I know the PAofNYNJ don't have a good track record, but it's better than the record the 9 bay area counties have in coordinating growth.
- jphelan 9y ago
  I'm excited that you're thinking about solutions to the housing crisis :). Unfortunately, prop 13 is basically untouchable - though it is a root cause of misaligned incentives for homeowners. Walk down my street in Sunnyvale, and 4/5 people are elderly and can't really afford their home without prop 13. Regional government is just what sb 828, which adds teeth to the state housing planning (and sort of sb 827, which sets zoning state wide), will do! I don't think breaking up CA would solve our jurisdictional issues (E.G. Sunnyvale can't get BART if Palo Alto won't accept it, or Cupertino can't get VTA investment if San Jose controls it) or change the local home owner politics in the Bay Area. I think it's pretty likely that we'll see 827 and 828 whittled down to nothing in the senate, but it doesn't mean we should give up. The tide is turning. Whether that happens fast enough to keep our cities viable depends on our participation.
  - masonic 9y ago
    change the local home owner politics Local home owners don't control local politics; the party apparatchiks do. VTA wouldn't be so wasteful and screwed up if those "4/5 elderly" had any say in it the past 40 years.
  - mc32 9y ago
    I would be against zoning state-wide. I can go with regional, but not state-wide. That's overreach and unnecessary in most of the surface area of the state.
namlem 9y ago
They won't come down as long as municipalities are allowed to dictate their own housing policies.

mc32 9y ago

Even more damning from the sub: "Shifting control of housing decisions from local to state oversight _could be a way_ to slow the rise of California’s house prices". Lot's of happy hoping for something. Since they like to just take random stabs to hope to come up with a kind of variable idea, here are mine: -Repeal prop 13. -Enact regional governmental authorities [ala PANYNJ[1]] to govern (coordinate) growth efforts. -Break the state into at least two distinct new states (it's too big an unwieldy to server everyone well) [1]I know the PAofNYNJ don't have a good track record, but it's better than the record the 9 bay area counties have in coordinating growth.

jphelan 9y ago
I'm excited that you're thinking about solutions to the housing crisis :). Unfortunately, prop 13 is basically untouchable - though it is a root cause of misaligned incentives for homeowners. Walk down my street in Sunnyvale, and 4/5 people are elderly and can't really afford their home without prop 13. Regional government is just what sb 828, which adds teeth to the state housing planning (and sort of sb 827, which sets zoning state wide), will do! I don't think breaking up CA would solve our jurisdictional issues (E.G. Sunnyvale can't get BART if Palo Alto won't accept it, or Cupertino can't get VTA investment if San Jose controls it) or change the local home owner politics in the Bay Area. I think it's pretty likely that we'll see 827 and 828 whittled down to nothing in the senate, but it doesn't mean we should give up. The tide is turning. Whether that happens fast enough to keep our cities viable depends on our participation.
- masonic 9y ago
  change the local home owner politics Local home owners don't control local politics; the party apparatchiks do. VTA wouldn't be so wasteful and screwed up if those "4/5 elderly" had any say in it the past 40 years.
- mc32 9y ago
  I would be against zoning state-wide. I can go with regional, but not state-wide. That's overreach and unnecessary in most of the surface area of the state.

namlem 9y ago

They won't come down as long as municipalities are allowed to dictate their own housing policies.