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>if you believe the municipal and/or state government are broken, yet you are in the middle class and you decide to stay If everyone that disagrees with a gove

by nwsm 9y ago

>if you believe the municipal and/or state government are broken, yet you are in the middle class and you decide to stay If everyone that disagrees with a government leaves, it almost ensures that government will stay the same. The only voters left are the ones who don't have a problem with the current administration.

kolbe 9y ago
That sounds pretty nice, actually. Everyone gets what they want.
- nkrisc 9y ago
  Not those who can't afford to leave.
  - sol_remmy 9y ago
    If poor South American families can afford to sneak into the U.S., than 99.9% of Americans can afford to move to a neighboring state. Or, why don't you give me a counterexample of someone who "can't afford to leave". A news story would be acceptable.
    - nkrisc 9y ago
      Are you suggesting the poor citizens of our country ought to be refugees within their own country in order to escape violence? That's a very bleak view of our country, but one that might actually be accurate. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-african-americans-population-cook-county-met-20160623-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-african... Moving costs money. Are you suggesting they simply leave everything behind and walk to a new city? While we're talking about sources, how about a source for your claim that 99.9% of Americans can afford to move to a neighboring state.
      - sol_remmy 9y ago
        Why do you consider people from Chicago moving to the South "refugees"? They are moving for better weather, lower taxes, and more jobs. Those are very normal reasons, not "refugee" reasons. Moving to the South is not a lower-class Chicago specific thing, in fact wealthy Jews are moving from New York to Florida. Are they refugees too?
        nkrisc 9y ago
        I don't consider them refugees. You were the one setting the bar at what South American refugees can achieve. Which taken at face value would imply you considered anyone who could not afford to move worse off than a South American refugee. However I consider your claim that 99.9% of Americans can afford to move to a neighboring state highly suspect. I am awaiting a source for that, even a news article.
sol_remmy 9y ago
> If everyone that disagrees with a government leaves, it almost ensures that government will stay the same. The only voters left are the ones who don't have a problem with the current administration. Your flat out wrong. If enough taxpayers leave, then government will not have the money to continue spending and stay the same The Soviet Union essentially fell apart because it ran out of money. If it had unlimited taxpayer funds, it would still be around

by nwsm 9y ago

kolbe 9y ago

That sounds pretty nice, actually. Everyone gets what they want.

nkrisc 9y ago
Not those who can't afford to leave.
- sol_remmy 9y ago
  If poor South American families can afford to sneak into the U.S., than 99.9% of Americans can afford to move to a neighboring state. Or, why don't you give me a counterexample of someone who "can't afford to leave". A news story would be acceptable.
  - nkrisc 9y ago
    Are you suggesting the poor citizens of our country ought to be refugees within their own country in order to escape violence? That's a very bleak view of our country, but one that might actually be accurate. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-african-americans-population-cook-county-met-20160623-story.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-african... Moving costs money. Are you suggesting they simply leave everything behind and walk to a new city? While we're talking about sources, how about a source for your claim that 99.9% of Americans can afford to move to a neighboring state.
    - sol_remmy 9y ago
      Why do you consider people from Chicago moving to the South "refugees"? They are moving for better weather, lower taxes, and more jobs. Those are very normal reasons, not "refugee" reasons. Moving to the South is not a lower-class Chicago specific thing, in fact wealthy Jews are moving from New York to Florida. Are they refugees too?
      - nkrisc 9y ago
        I don't consider them refugees. You were the one setting the bar at what South American refugees can achieve. Which taken at face value would imply you considered anyone who could not afford to move worse off than a South American refugee. However I consider your claim that 99.9% of Americans can afford to move to a neighboring state highly suspect. I am awaiting a source for that, even a news article.

sol_remmy 9y ago

> If everyone that disagrees with a government leaves, it almost ensures that government will stay the same. The only voters left are the ones who don't have a problem with the current administration. Your flat out wrong. If enough taxpayers leave, then government will not have the money to continue spending and stay the same The Soviet Union essentially fell apart because it ran out of money. If it had unlimited taxpayer funds, it would still be around