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I don't like your grocery store test at all. Before I give reasons, can you elaborate on what things make you "cringe"? Edit: Surprised at the support for groc

I don't like your grocery store test at all. Before I give reasons, can you elaborate on what things make you "cringe"? Edit: Surprised at the support for grocery store test. If I was hiring and doing the grocery store test, then I would reject everyone who has posted in support of this test as they make me "cringe".

baq 9y ago
it doesn't really matter. would you like to work for someone who cringes when he sees you? it's not a good career choice.
Humdeee 9y ago
Is it not obvious? It's a visual opinion that is open to interpretation as much as any company that can consider you a fit for their culture. It's not a universal cringe per se, but likely falls into 'outside of social norms' cringe.
- s73v3r_ 9y ago
  I really doubt the "grocery store test" is based at all on appearances, but if, after knowing you, would they want to go up and talk to you if they saw you outside of work, or would they try and hide, and hope you don't notice them.
  - luckydude 9y ago
    This guy/gal gets it. That's exactly what I was trying to say and apparently failed at saying.
jarsin 9y ago
I don't think I have ever once in my life seen someone in the grocery store that I want to have a fun chat with. Excluding potential dates haha.
luckydude 9y ago
I think I failed to communicate. Let's try a different version and call it the "no assholes rule". If I hired someone who was a top 1% engineer but was a complete asshole to work with, that's someone who would fail the asshole test. It's extremely unlikely I'd have hired that person, we built a team of people who were both good at what they did and friendly with each other. The grocery store test I apparently completely screwed up in getting across what I meant. Someone who failed the asshole test would fail the grocery store test. What the grocery store test is trying to get across is how you would react when you saw a co-worker outside of work. Do you like them enough that you'd go say hi, maybe chat a little before moving on with your shopping? Or do you dislike them enough that you'd try and avoid them? If applied in the right way, it makes you think about the person in a broader sense than just their coding skills. If you like how they code and you would like to chat with them outside of work, that's a pretty strong indicator, in my experience, that you'll bond as a team. I'm not sure how I failed so badly at explaining that, whatever. The point is that building a team is not just about individual skills, it's also about how the team gets along. A soccer player recently was trying to make the same point when he said "you can buy any player you want, you can't buy a team". tl;dr: building a team is not just about skill, it's also about chemistry.

baq 9y ago

it doesn't really matter. would you like to work for someone who cringes when he sees you? it's not a good career choice.

Humdeee 9y ago

Is it not obvious? It's a visual opinion that is open to interpretation as much as any company that can consider you a fit for their culture. It's not a universal cringe per se, but likely falls into 'outside of social norms' cringe.

s73v3r_ 9y ago
I really doubt the "grocery store test" is based at all on appearances, but if, after knowing you, would they want to go up and talk to you if they saw you outside of work, or would they try and hide, and hope you don't notice them.
- luckydude 9y ago
  This guy/gal gets it. That's exactly what I was trying to say and apparently failed at saying.

jarsin 9y ago

I don't think I have ever once in my life seen someone in the grocery store that I want to have a fun chat with. Excluding potential dates haha.

luckydude 9y ago

I think I failed to communicate. Let's try a different version and call it the "no assholes rule". If I hired someone who was a top 1% engineer but was a complete asshole to work with, that's someone who would fail the asshole test. It's extremely unlikely I'd have hired that person, we built a team of people who were both good at what they did and friendly with each other. The grocery store test I apparently completely screwed up in getting across what I meant. Someone who failed the asshole test would fail the grocery store test. What the grocery store test is trying to get across is how you would react when you saw a co-worker outside of work. Do you like them enough that you'd go say hi, maybe chat a little before moving on with your shopping? Or do you dislike them enough that you'd try and avoid them? If applied in the right way, it makes you think about the person in a broader sense than just their coding skills. If you like how they code and you would like to chat with them outside of work, that's a pretty strong indicator, in my experience, that you'll bond as a team. I'm not sure how I failed so badly at explaining that, whatever. The point is that building a team is not just about individual skills, it's also about how the team gets along. A soccer player recently was trying to make the same point when he said "you can buy any player you want, you can't buy a team". tl;dr: building a team is not just about skill, it's also about chemistry.