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Im going to say this - When it is all said and done, if you fucked up, you should get some shit for it. However this should be good natured, YOU should be laug

Im going to say this - When it is all said and done, if you fucked up, you should get some shit for it. However this should be good natured, YOU should be laughing at it and everyone else laughing WITH you.

iovrthoughtthis 9y ago
In the quiet isolation of a one2one, perhaps. Publicly i.e. I front of the team? No. It serves no purpose than to stroke some egos and reduce the "Overton window" of development discussion and experimentation.
- silveroriole 9y ago
  To me the one2one situation would feel like I’m surreptitiously getting bollocked for making the mistake, under the guise of humor. In public, on the other hand, I don’t care if someone takes the piss out of my code - I’ll laugh right along with them as long as it’s not overly malicious. IMO it sets a good example not to be precious about your code.
bjpbakker 9y ago
> if you fucked up, you should get some shit for it If you're intending that you (and the rest of your team) should learn from your mistakes, then I fully agree
- zer00eyz 9y ago
  Yes, and it should be good natured... not at someones expense. Hence the reason YOU should be leading the laughter. There is a case that laughing indicates that the stressful situation has passed: http://mentalfloss.com/article/69830/why-do-we-laugh-when-were-scared http://mentalfloss.com/article/69830/why-do-we-laugh-when-we...
watwut 9y ago
No one has right to demand what I laugh about or not. There is enough shit I have to take regularly to have zero desire to have to pretend laugh to it. The discussions about everybody mistakes should be open, with emphasis on everybody, but leave mockery out of it. Inform everyone when they make mistakes without mocking them or attacking their egos and keep it factual. Don't assume everyone is friend with everybody nor that everybody is happy, it is not true. The line between laughing at it and with me is thin and oftentimes muddled. Relaxed laughing at mistakes is result of good teamwork, but you don't get to good work by demanding that people accept being laughed at or mocked.
- scott_s 9y ago
  Fully agreed. No one should "get shit" for mistakes on their job. Mockery has no part in productive organizations.

iovrthoughtthis 9y ago

In the quiet isolation of a one2one, perhaps. Publicly i.e. I front of the team? No. It serves no purpose than to stroke some egos and reduce the "Overton window" of development discussion and experimentation.

silveroriole 9y ago
To me the one2one situation would feel like I’m surreptitiously getting bollocked for making the mistake, under the guise of humor. In public, on the other hand, I don’t care if someone takes the piss out of my code - I’ll laugh right along with them as long as it’s not overly malicious. IMO it sets a good example not to be precious about your code.

bjpbakker 9y ago

> if you fucked up, you should get some shit for it If you're intending that you (and the rest of your team) should learn from your mistakes, then I fully agree

zer00eyz 9y ago
Yes, and it should be good natured... not at someones expense. Hence the reason YOU should be leading the laughter. There is a case that laughing indicates that the stressful situation has passed: http://mentalfloss.com/article/69830/why-do-we-laugh-when-were-scared http://mentalfloss.com/article/69830/why-do-we-laugh-when-we...

watwut 9y ago

No one has right to demand what I laugh about or not. There is enough shit I have to take regularly to have zero desire to have to pretend laugh to it. The discussions about everybody mistakes should be open, with emphasis on everybody, but leave mockery out of it. Inform everyone when they make mistakes without mocking them or attacking their egos and keep it factual. Don't assume everyone is friend with everybody nor that everybody is happy, it is not true. The line between laughing at it and with me is thin and oftentimes muddled. Relaxed laughing at mistakes is result of good teamwork, but you don't get to good work by demanding that people accept being laughed at or mocked.

scott_s 9y ago
Fully agreed. No one should "get shit" for mistakes on their job. Mockery has no part in productive organizations.