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I think this might be the bursting of the Silicon Valley's self driving car bubble. People are starting to realise tech is nowhere near to make self driving car

I think this might be the bursting of the Silicon Valley's self driving car bubble. People are starting to realise tech is nowhere near to make self driving cars feasible on scale. We still might be decade or more away from tech being advanced enough to consider going in this direction.

FreakyT 9y ago
> "tech is nowhere near to make self driving cars feasible on scale" To be more specific, Uber's tech is the one that's nowhere near feasible. According to recently leaked data, Uber's self driving system is literally orders of magnitude more failure prone than Waymo's[1]. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/23/technology/uber-self-driving-cars-arizona.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/23/technology/uber-self-driv...
- richardknop 9y ago
  That is probably correct. But I am skeptical of even Waymo. I don't think even with Waymo's tech it's reasonable to expect any deployment of self driving cars on a meaningful scale in next 5-10 years (apart from some very controlled conditions like roads or lanes dedicated to self driving cars but that will require infrastructure build-up which will take decade or two).
- bkor 9y ago
  From what I understood elsewhere, the numbers in that article are about different measures (apples vs oranges comparison). Article states: > 5,600 miles before the driver had to take control from the computer to steer out of trouble Apparently they have a number for a) number of miles per intervention and b) number of miles per intervention to prevent an accident. Waymo's number is measure b, Uber's number if measure a.
tim333 9y ago
>nowhere near ... feasible On the other hand >Waymo now testing its self-driving cars on public roads with no one at the wheel https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15644680 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15644680 > Waymo is doing it live. Two months after the Alphabet self-driving car spinoff announced it would start running a truly driver-free service in Phoenix this year (as in, cars romping about with no one at the wheel), the company now unveils how it will do it: with the help of thousands more Chrysler Pacifica hybrids. https://www.wired.com/story/waymo-launches-self-driving-minivans-fiat-chrysler/ https://www.wired.com/story/waymo-launches-self-driving-mini...

FreakyT 9y ago

> "tech is nowhere near to make self driving cars feasible on scale" To be more specific, Uber's tech is the one that's nowhere near feasible. According to recently leaked data, Uber's self driving system is literally orders of magnitude more failure prone than Waymo's[1]. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/23/technology/uber-self-driving-cars-arizona.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/23/technology/uber-self-driv...

richardknop 9y ago
That is probably correct. But I am skeptical of even Waymo. I don't think even with Waymo's tech it's reasonable to expect any deployment of self driving cars on a meaningful scale in next 5-10 years (apart from some very controlled conditions like roads or lanes dedicated to self driving cars but that will require infrastructure build-up which will take decade or two).
bkor 9y ago
From what I understood elsewhere, the numbers in that article are about different measures (apples vs oranges comparison). Article states: > 5,600 miles before the driver had to take control from the computer to steer out of trouble Apparently they have a number for a) number of miles per intervention and b) number of miles per intervention to prevent an accident. Waymo's number is measure b, Uber's number if measure a.

tim333 9y ago

>nowhere near ... feasible On the other hand >Waymo now testing its self-driving cars on public roads with no one at the wheel https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15644680 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15644680 > Waymo is doing it live. Two months after the Alphabet self-driving car spinoff announced it would start running a truly driver-free service in Phoenix this year (as in, cars romping about with no one at the wheel), the company now unveils how it will do it: with the help of thousands more Chrysler Pacifica hybrids. https://www.wired.com/story/waymo-launches-self-driving-minivans-fiat-chrysler/ https://www.wired.com/story/waymo-launches-self-driving-mini...