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Something is real fishy with Uber and the Arizona fatality. If you believe Uber's dashcam footage it was dark and hard to see the woman. Several people in the a

by cletus 9y ago

Something is real fishy with Uber and the Arizona fatality. If you believe Uber's dashcam footage it was dark and hard to see the woman. Several people in the area posted comparison dashcam footage showing it just wasn't that dark [1]. This raises a bunch of questions: - Was this the unprocessed footage from a dashcam in the Uber car? - How bright were the headlights? - What other sensors could've and should've detected an object to be avoided on the road? I honestly don't know why this view seems to be so unpopular here (probably because of the optimism for self-driving cars, which I share) but why isn't criminal negligence for Uber a possibility here? Apparently they also disabled one of the safety systems in the Volvo XC90 designed to avoid this sort of thing. If it does come to light that Uber misrepresented the conditions of the crash, tampered with the evidence in any way or even tampered with other safety measures then shouldn't a criminal case be a consideration? [1]: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/03/police-chief-said-uber-victim-came-from-the-shadows-dont-believe-it/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/03/police-chief-said-uber-...

grzm 9y ago
At this point we really don't have enough information to know what happened other than the car hit and killed the pedestrian. We don't know how or if this dash cam video played into the control systems of the car. The accident is tragic and of course should be looked into. The NTSB is investigating[0] and I assume will have access to a lot better information than we have at this point, including all of that you're interested in. Lots of arm-chair quarterbacking at this point, given the paucity of information available right now. As for "I honestly don't know why this view seems to be so unpopular here", there are opinions all over the map, including those very similar to yours. This discussion has been going on for days in multiple submissions, and again, based on very little information. [0]: https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/NR20180320.aspx https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/NR20180320.as...

by cletus 9y ago

grzm 9y ago

At this point we really don't have enough information to know what happened other than the car hit and killed the pedestrian. We don't know how or if this dash cam video played into the control systems of the car. The accident is tragic and of course should be looked into. The NTSB is investigating[0] and I assume will have access to a lot better information than we have at this point, including all of that you're interested in. Lots of arm-chair quarterbacking at this point, given the paucity of information available right now. As for "I honestly don't know why this view seems to be so unpopular here", there are opinions all over the map, including those very similar to yours. This discussion has been going on for days in multiple submissions, and again, based on very little information. [0]: https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/NR20180320.aspx https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/NR20180320.as...